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 Post subject: Re: Message of the Bible
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:58 pm 
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PyTom wrote:
Why would being a "visual article" prohibit including a screenshot?

I thought that taking a screenshot of just words would just waste space. Should I post a screenshot anyway?

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 Post subject: Re: Message of the Bible
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:03 pm 
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It's a word for word match to the old one, gang. The only thing missing is the disabling of the Menu screen, as I described above. Oh, and an article has to be cross-referenced and fact-checked. This is little but conjecture and opinion, and thus is properly an Editorial.

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 Post subject: Re: Message of the Bible
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:09 pm 
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DarkSpartan wrote:
It's a word for word match to the old one, gang. The only thing missing is the disabling of the Menu screen, as I described above. Oh, and an article has to be cross-referenced and fact-checked. This is little but conjecture and opinion, and thus is properly an Editorial.

What? I thought he fixed that by putting in the references?

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 Post subject: Re: Message of the Bible
PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:04 am 
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No specific studies, scholar names, or any other such that I saw.

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 Post subject: Re: Message of the Bible
PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:14 am 
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DarkSpartan wrote:
No specific studies, scholar names, or any other such that I saw.

... Let me talk with him again about that...

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 Post subject: Re: Message of the Bible
PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:33 am 
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Citing one's sources is fun! And no, the Bible itself is not considered an academic source. There are other sources from that point in time.

Oh, and Not Allowed to quote the bible for things that *might* agree with you, and claim 'Satanic Corruption' for the bits that don't. It's dismissive, at best, and at worst academically dishonest.

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 Post subject: Re: Message of the Bible
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DarkSpartan wrote:
Citing one's sources is fun! And no, the Bible itself is not considered an academic source. There are other sources from that point in time.

Oh, and Not Allowed to quote the bible for things that *might* agree with you, and claim 'Satanic Corruption' for the bits that don't. It's dismissive, at best, and at worst academically dishonest.

Well, I never claimed "Satanic Corruption". As an atheist, I don't believe in Satan. I was just the proofreader and did some information hunting. I'm not looking for an argument. But, I think saying that I am not allowed to quote things from the bible is a bold statement. If you ask my personal opinion, the bible is a book fill of hypocrisy and contradiction.

Keep in mind that... That was my personal opinion and I did not mean to offend anyone in the process of doing so.

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 Post subject: Re: Message of the Bible
PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:53 am 
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I'm not poking at you, actually. Your writer has an agenda, and has started this fight a few times before here. I'm not here to have *that* argument again, but a certain amount of academic responsibility is required to call it an article, or even an argument. An academic stand has been taken, and peer review/questioning of conclusions is part of that process.

Therefore, that is what has been initiated here. I have no intent to offend either, but instead to improve the quality of the work, if possible. An assertion has been made in declarative terms, and should now be backed up with appropriate research, cited and available to research.

If you would like me to desist, I shall do so, but if the intent is to be taken seriously, perhaps this is what the work needs.

Oh, and the Writer did in fact say that very thing. Citation to follow.

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Line 165, script.rpy, v 1.1 states as follows:

n "It is believed that parts of the Bible has been manipulated by Satanic forces to misguide people."

The course of the section of the work prior to the questions is devoted primarily to quoting bible passages as evidence in support of the thesis.

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 Post subject: Re: Message of the Bible
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DarkSpartan wrote:
I'm not poking at you, actually. Your writer has an agenda, and has started this fight a few times before here. I'm not here to have *that* argument again, but a certain amount of academic responsibility is required to call it an article, or even an argument. An academic stand has been taken, and peer review/questioning of conclusions is part of that process.

Therefore, that is what has been initiated here. I have no intent to offend either, but instead to improve the quality of the work, if possible. An assertion has been made in declarative terms, and should now be backed up with appropriate research, cited and available to research.

If you would like me to desist, I shall do so, but if the intent is to be taken seriously, perhaps this is what the work needs.

Oh, and the Writer did in fact say that very thing. Citation to follow.

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Line 165, script.rpy, v 1.1 states as follows:

n "It is believed that parts of the Bible has been manipulated by Satanic forces to misguide people."

The course of the section of the work prior to the questions is devoted primarily to quoting bible passages as evidence in support of the thesis.

Sorry. I guess I was taking it too personally. It was just you have been using "you" in all of your sentences.

Like I said before, I am going to talk to him about it.

I want no-one to desist. Negative, neutral, or positive feedback is always welcome. So long as it gives constructive feedback. Or in the case of positive feedback, it doesn't have to be constructive. haha

If you want, you can give me the citation in a PM so we don't keep bumping the thread.

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 Post subject: Re: Message of the Bible
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The quote in question referred to is at the very end of your quoted area. Unfortunately, Master Wright can't have it both ways. It's accurate or it's not.

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 Post subject: Re: Message of the Bible
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Straight from the horse's mouth...

"Tell them that it was the last version of the article. Also, tell them that I have other things to do including attending to helpless animals and I have nothing more to do with this VA."

I guess that's it then...

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 Post subject: Re: Message of the Bible
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So be it. Can't say I didn't try.

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 Post subject: Re: Message of the Bible
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Thanks you to everyone who has given feedback and suggestions. But, in light of new circumstances, the project is complete and there can be no more edits.

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