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 Post subject: Re: Doomfest's stuff
PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:01 pm 
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S-schoolgirl! *faints*
She's very cute ^^

The color blending is awesome.
But my anatomy sensor detected her right leg to be somehow weird (wrong angle?).
I'd recommend to move it a little bit to the left.

Also, she has a ransack, which is mainly used by elementary students like in this photo on Chiaki (on the right side, kinda hard to see). High schoolers mainly use bags like Haruka onee-sama (on the left). But maybe it's what you wanted to draw ^^

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:23 pm 
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[02:49] <Komi> How is Dysfunctional Systems coming along?
[02:52] <Doomfest> have you seen prince of egypt
[02:53] <Doomfest> do you remember that scene with the storm of bugs
[02:54] <Komi> I know what you are talking about, but I can't remember the scene.
[02:54] <Doomfest> that is what it feels like
[02:55] <Komi> Personality conflicts on the team, I take it?
[02:56] <Doomfest> no
[02:56] <Doomfest> just bugs
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:01 am 
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I see you have a prominent attitude of drawing towards kawai girls :D

Good water effect, great sky, wonderful composition! Did I mentioned you have also an eye for colors? If no, then I say it now. Keep up the good work and I'm looking towards seeing more of your usual stuff :)

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 Post subject: Re: Doomfest's stuff
PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:31 am 
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Wait a minute... I just realize that there's 5m mark on the pool. She floats on the water?
And the sky seems strange. Not the drawing that's strange, but that sky makes as if the pool is floating/flying in the sky. The clouds seems too close to the grounds (well, except if the pool is indeed flying ^_^ )


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 Post subject: Re: Doomfest's stuff
PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:45 am 
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You're paying to much attention to details, LVUER. The bg looks nice and the city skyline propably wouldn't fit in here, anyway it looks better with sky than buildings. Although, even if the girl is standing on some sort of platform where the water's more shallow, there shouldn't be any "5m" sign :P

I think the important thing in art is to be able to create a proper atmosphere, which will be flowing from your works. You don't have to be that realistic. The only things that matter are colors, lights and shadows, perspective, anatomy and composition. But a good artist should also pay attention to small gimnicks, because we're sometimes bound to make mistakes and create absurdal things in the process :D

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 Post subject: Re: Doomfest's stuff
PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:21 am 
Is it only a coincidence or unmentioned fanart?


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:38 am 
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It seems like that :wink:. It's Nono :)

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 Post subject: Re: Doomfest's stuff
PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:49 am 
actually it's a .5m which I guess means 0.5m ; p which makes perfect sense


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:47 pm 
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but that sky makes as if the pool is floating/flying in the sky.

I think if the pool is on top of a high rise building, the sky would seem close. To support this idea is the existence of fences surrounding the pool, probably to prevent people from falling.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:52 pm 
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I had assumed it was on top of a school... what with the school swimsuit and all. :-)

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JQuartz wrote:
I think if the pool is on top of a high rise building, the sky would seem close. To support this idea is the existence of fences surrounding the pool, probably to prevent people from falling.


Actually, most outdoor pools, particularly at schools, have fences around them to stop people falling into the pool. The one at my old school was just at the back of the sports fields, without the fence someone eventually would have run backwards without looking to catch a ball or something and ended up getting wet.

I also figured it was on top of a building, but given the angle to the horizontal that the picture's framed at, you should be able to see some ground through the fence even if it's on top of a tall building, unless that building is really really tall, and doesn't have any other tall buildings remotely nearby. Which seems pretty unlikely. As it is, it looks like the building is so high up it actually pokes through the clouds and the reason you can't see the ground is because there are clouds in the way. Which implies it's much taller than your average skyscraper.


Regardless, though, since the point has been brought up: personally, I reject this notion that it's perfectly fine to have inaccuracies just because it's art and not a photograph. If they're actually intentional, then fine - but it's a bit of an odd thing to be intentional. A lot of people will look at the image for a bit, notice the 'wrong' thing and it'll bug them whenever they look at the image, whereas it seems more likely they're supposed to be thinking "Ah, cute girl in a swimming costume!". If we excuse the artist any problems he might have missed just because he's good at rendering, then we deny him the opportunity to learn from his mistakes.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:17 pm 
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The one at my old school was just at the back of the sports fields, without the fence someone eventually would have run backwards without looking to catch a ball or something and ended up getting wet.

I think the fence in your case is for the field not the pool. The sports field in my (ex-)college had a fence surrounding some parts of it and the pool is no where near. So a pool by default do not need a fence unless there's a field next to it. The picture doesn't show a field next to it so it must be to prevent people from falling off the edge of the building.

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so high up it actually pokes through the clouds and the reason you can't see the ground is because there are clouds in the way. Which implies it's much taller than your average skyscraper.

Didn't notice that until you pointed it out. Yeah, it does seem to be quite high.
Or maybe the school have the habit of pasting sky themed wallpaper around their swimming pools to prevent perverted boys from ogling the girls. Just a joke.

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JQuartz wrote:
Jake wrote:
The one at my old school was just at the back of the sports fields, without the fence someone eventually would have run backwards without looking to catch a ball or something and ended up getting wet.

I think the fence in your case is for the field not the pool.


No, seriously, it was for the pool. It was around the pool, the entirety of the pool, and nothing else. It had signs on it saying "This is a swimming pool, don't climb this fence", even. The field was open in several places, the only fences around it were where it bordered on people's houses.

Every outdoors pool I've seen has had a fence around it with the exception of those in people's private gardens. It's not just if people are running backwards not looking where they're going, it's also for when it's dark, foggy or raining heavily, it's for keeping random animals out of the pool as much as possible, to stop people dropping things into the pool... and so on. Maybe your ex-college just didn't care about that kind of thing, but a lot of places do.

(There exist tall buildings with nothing but a low 30cm wall around the outside of their flat roof - it doesn't mean that a flat roof doesn't benefit from a fence.)

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Maybe your ex-college just didn't care about that kind of thing, but a lot of places do.

I guess this must be a culture thing since very few swimming pools in my country have a fence around it. I almost fell down into a pool a few times already while I was passing through. Must be why your country's pools are fenced.

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(There exist tall buildings with nothing but a low 30cm wall around the outside of their flat roof - it doesn't mean that a flat roof doesn't benefit from a fence.)

Doesn't it mean the fence is to prevent people from falling down the building, which is contradictory to your argument (that the fence is to keep people from falling into the pool not down the edge of the building)?

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JQuartz wrote:
I almost fell down into a pool a few times already while I was passing through. Must be why your country's pools are fenced.

You think?

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contradictory to your argument


Uh... I never said that tall buildings shouldn't have fences around them. I just said that pools usually do (or at least should) have fences around them, so the fact that it has a fence doesn't automatically mean it's definitely at the top of a tall building. It could just be that Doomfest didn't bother to think properly about the background. :P

(Logically speaking, it makes a lot more sense to build swimming pools at ground level rather than on top of buildings. Why? I'd guess that my school swimming pool had somewhere in the region of a third of a million litres of water in it, which would weigh about three hundred tonnes. I'm sure there's more than that worldwide, but I know of exactly one swimming pool which isn't at ground level, and lots which are.)

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