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kara>> As for "Kara", well you'd always be a girl here in the land where every girl's name ends with "a" ^_^. If it doesn't... well, the chan-form is always with an "a". For instance Karin -> Karinka.
JackalAndromeda>> Indeed, interesting... I thought painting was kind of universal. But then it's true, I know many more girls who like to (actively) paint than I know guys.
JackalAndromeda>> Indeed, interesting... I thought painting was kind of universal. But then it's true, I know many more girls who like to (actively) paint than I know guys.
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Out of place?... I'll just mention a certain high school trip - me and my friend (that makes 2 guys) and the rest of the bus was all girls (about 30). One week in Italy, culture, arts, summer, Venice, Rome, Naples, the beaches, volcano edges, Capri island,... And I survived!eclipse wrote:Maybe they feel out of place among a group of females.
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It was okay, but I guess it just sounds more romantic than it really was. I was more looking at Italian cars and they were more looking at... well, Italians ^_^
But if you can call it romantic, we were sleeping in the bus during the ride (not really safe), and the floor spaces were all taken, the double seats occupied and then I sort of joked about one girl that she could maybe let me sleep for a while in her space, and 3 hours later she actually let me use her space on the floor! I wasn't really expecting that, because most (if not all) girls just thought guys can handle anything and actually we asked many girls but they just smiled and went back to rest. So this was a real shock, because she took the uncomfy seat so I could sleep and well, girls rarely take the uncomfortable option when a guy can take it... or do they?
But if you can call it romantic, we were sleeping in the bus during the ride (not really safe), and the floor spaces were all taken, the double seats occupied and then I sort of joked about one girl that she could maybe let me sleep for a while in her space, and 3 hours later she actually let me use her space on the floor! I wasn't really expecting that, because most (if not all) girls just thought guys can handle anything and actually we asked many girls but they just smiled and went back to rest. So this was a real shock, because she took the uncomfy seat so I could sleep and well, girls rarely take the uncomfortable option when a guy can take it... or do they?
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In my own experience with online gender issues, I never tried to seem neutral myself, and I always just assumed everyone could tell I was female by whatever cutesy screen name I had chosen. I sometimes forget that other people cannot see me as I type. I was a little bit amused and mildly displeased when I started playing online games, and people would have to ask me what gender I was in real life, despite my avatar's female gender and modest clothing. I guess with so many boys playing as females, and a bunch of girls in the mix playing as males, there are no safe assumptions in online RPGs. It gets me kind of worried when people directly ask, as in--If you have to ask, are you trying to decide whether to treat me differently? =^0.o^=
As for this forum, I personally remember spending some time staring at eclipse's icon in an attempt to determine her gender. I was relieved when more informed people provided the public with the appropriate pronouns, and when she removed all remaining doubt by releasing the first English-language bishounen game. It was easier to guess for most of the other members.
Why does it matter to me?
Well, my perception of a forum-goer's gender generally does not affect my behavior toward him/her, since communicating is more like catapaulting telegrams in glass bottles over a brick wall than navigating through a visual novel for me, anyway. However, when I read a thread, I can see everything taking place in my mind's eye. I can see the people's lips move, and I can see the gestures they make based on the "intonation" of the text. (Things really get interesting when they use *actions* to influence the movie taking place.) Usually the people I see are kind of hazy, and not exactly normal-looking like the kind I would see if I switched on the TV right now--more like conceptual spirit-snapshots based partly on their screen names, partly on their avatars past and present, and partly on the things they say about themselves and the way they say them. I need a gender to complete the picture accurately, and inaccuracy really bugs me.
Did I mention I am extensively synesthetic?
Anyone who actually takes the time to read my verbose, irrelevant ramblings gets a cupcake.
Postscript: I apologize on behalf of the girls who have caused mikey discomfort in the past.
In my own experience with online gender issues, I never tried to seem neutral myself, and I always just assumed everyone could tell I was female by whatever cutesy screen name I had chosen. I sometimes forget that other people cannot see me as I type. I was a little bit amused and mildly displeased when I started playing online games, and people would have to ask me what gender I was in real life, despite my avatar's female gender and modest clothing. I guess with so many boys playing as females, and a bunch of girls in the mix playing as males, there are no safe assumptions in online RPGs. It gets me kind of worried when people directly ask, as in--If you have to ask, are you trying to decide whether to treat me differently? =^0.o^=
As for this forum, I personally remember spending some time staring at eclipse's icon in an attempt to determine her gender. I was relieved when more informed people provided the public with the appropriate pronouns, and when she removed all remaining doubt by releasing the first English-language bishounen game. It was easier to guess for most of the other members.
Why does it matter to me?
Well, my perception of a forum-goer's gender generally does not affect my behavior toward him/her, since communicating is more like catapaulting telegrams in glass bottles over a brick wall than navigating through a visual novel for me, anyway. However, when I read a thread, I can see everything taking place in my mind's eye. I can see the people's lips move, and I can see the gestures they make based on the "intonation" of the text. (Things really get interesting when they use *actions* to influence the movie taking place.) Usually the people I see are kind of hazy, and not exactly normal-looking like the kind I would see if I switched on the TV right now--more like conceptual spirit-snapshots based partly on their screen names, partly on their avatars past and present, and partly on the things they say about themselves and the way they say them. I need a gender to complete the picture accurately, and inaccuracy really bugs me.
Did I mention I am extensively synesthetic?
Anyone who actually takes the time to read my verbose, irrelevant ramblings gets a cupcake.
Postscript: I apologize on behalf of the girls who have caused mikey discomfort in the past.
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nope. I personally don't really care too much if someone is male, female, or (even though it hasn't happened yet) an asexual life-formGlasskitten wrote:...It gets me kind of worried when people directly ask, as in--If you have to ask, are you trying to decide whether to treat me differently? =^0.o^=
yeah. kinda difficult, isn't it?As for this forum, I personally remember spending some time staring at eclipse's icon in an attempt to determine her gender.
...and yet somehow, after AP was released, I still screwed up and called him a guy - wait... scratch "him", put "her" in....I was relieved when more informed people provided the public with the appropriate pronouns, and when she removed all remaining doubt by releasing the first English-language bishounen game. It was easier to guess for most of the other members.
I'm one step above you: I hear voices.Why does it matter to me?
Well, my perception of a forum-goer's gender generally does not affect my behavior toward him/her, since communicating is more like catapaulting telegrams in glass bottles over a brick wall than navigating through a visual novel for me, anyway. However, when I read a thread, I can see everything taking place in my mind's eye. I can see the people's lips move, and I can see the gestures they make based on the "intonation" of the text. (Things really get interesting when they use *actions* to influence the movie taking place.) Usually the people I see are kind of hazy, and not exactly normal-looking like the kind I would see if I switched on the TV right now--more like conceptual spirit-snapshots based partly on their screen names, partly on their avatars past and present, and partly on the things they say about themselves and the way they say them. I need a gender to complete the picture accurately, and inaccuracy really bugs me.
umm... how high are we talking?...since communicating is more like catapaulting telegrams in glass bottles over a brick wall than navigating through a visual novel for me, anyway
*goes to dictionary.com...* ah... that would make some sense to me...Did I mention I am extensively synesthetic?
there any left?Anyone who actually takes the time to read my verbose, irrelevant ramblings gets a cupcake.
right... *doesn't have a clue*Postscript: I apologize on behalf of the girls who have caused mikey discomfort in the past.
hiya, Grey!Grey wrote:Sounds rather dangerous to me.
*must take more care when navigating forums in future*
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In MMORPGs, all bets are off in regards to gender. I was up really late one night on WoW playing my little Tauren Hunter and I was questing in the starting area with someone from Australia (The only other person in the zone since it's an East Coast server and most people were in bed). I had a lovely time until the asked a/s which I found odd because most people just assume I'm male especially when I'm playing a male character. I say 20/f and he says, and I quote; "FEMALE?!"Glasskitten wrote:I was a little bit amused and mildly displeased when I started playing online games, and people would have to ask me what gender I was in real life, despite my avatar's female gender and modest clothing.
"Yeah, girls play this game. ^.^"
Well, I am on a PvP server and there aren't too many girls. My sister's guild has about five or six though.
In general I don't mind when people call me 'dude' or 'he' and I don't bother to correct them because it gets really stupid when they find out I'm a girl. I don't understand the sometimes huge change in the way they interact with me. I'm still the same player. I live several hundred or even thousand miles away, so it's not like we'll ever meet in a non-game setting. When it's just people typing and fighting in a video game how can gender possibly impact that?
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