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Ren'Py 6.12.1 "Human Factor" is the first of a series of minor releases focusing on improving the experience of visual novel makers. This release features several improvements to the process of showing images:

- Image attributes make it no longer necessary to specify every part of a changed image.
- The say statement can change image attributes when a character speaks.
- Side images can be specified with the image statement, and can be used with NVL-mode dialogue.
- Sticky transforms allow a transform to continue through an image change.

As these new features can change the behavior of existing games, it may be convenient to disable them for in-development projects. Please see the list of incompatible changes for instructions on how to do this.

The other major improvement is in error handling. Where previous versions of Ren'Py would terminate on errors, 6.12.1 will display a screen that allows the maker to edit problematic files and reload the game, and the user to rollback or ignore the problem.

Ren'Py 6.12.1 also includes many other minor features and bug fixes, please see the full changelog for more details.

Downloads of 6.12.1 can be found at:

- http://www.renpy.org/release/6.12.1

A full list of changes to Ren'Py can be found at:

- http://www.renpy.org/dev-doc/html/changelog.html

A list of changes that may require you to update your game can be found at:

- http://www.renpy.org/dev-doc/html/incompatible.html



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This is the first release to use a new pre-release process, that I'm still experimenting with as a go along. I've posted up an early version of 6.12.1, so it can be out there for people to play with. There are a lot of changes to the way showing images work, and I think this will lead to changes in the way people program Ren'Py games. (I think that, combined, the changes will save people a lot of typing.)

If you're working on a new game, or one in the early stages of programming, I encourage you to try out the 6.12.1 pre-releases, and to use the new features, especially attribute-based images, as (based on suggestions from people) I think they will simplify game scripts. On the other hand, they can change the meaning of some code, so if you have an in-development game, you may want to set config.image_attributes to False to turn them off. In both cases, I'd like to find out about any problems you have.

There are still known reported bugs in 6.12.1, and I haven't touched the Android build in a while. Much documentation has yet to be written - many of then new features are only documented in the changelog. So this is by no means done. But my testing shows it to be reasonably stable, and hopefully worth trying out as I polish up 6.12.1.

Finally, there are a bunch of simple-yet-useful features, which I'll mention here to make them more prominent for people who don't read the changelog:

- Ren'Py remembers window size, and it's now possible to have preferences for specific window sizes.
- The new Tooltip class makes tooltips easier.
- config.debug_text_overflow will log text overflows to a file.

That's really interesting. The new image attributes thing. Since I write directly into Ren'Py, I'll still be going back through all my lines to insert emotions, but if I know for sure the char is mad when he says something, I can go ahead and nip that in the bud. Of course, my "find>replace all" for changing character call names won't work anymore, but I guess I should have never done that in the first place.

Yay for xcenter/ycenter! Something so simple yet will be what I use the most.

Good work, I hope to make a new game sometime so that I can actually use this stuff. =P

I got this error immediately on startup. I used the autoupdater though, not sure if that was ok. In practice the auto-images doesn't seem to work ?

This is only a minor thing, and it might be because I disabled all of the new image definition features, but every once in a while when I save my game in 6.12.1 the thumbnail image in the save menu is completely black? (There was an imagemap on screen at the time, if that helps). The same thing seems to happen with another game that I'm assuming was made in 6.12.1, too.

(Not sure if this is the right place for this, sorry!)

Ah yes I have that problem too, in Remember Me. If you save on the map, you see black thumbnail. In my case doesn't seem to be ALWAYS black, only some times (don't know what triggers it though).

Heh, that was actually the game I was talking about, but I didn't want to assume. But yeah, most of the time it was completely fine, so I'm not really sure why it happens...

Can people post some of the save game files where this happens?

Uh oh... I see side images had something new... I'm genuinely worried since I am a heavy user of side-images...

Time to download...

"POOF" (Disappears)

- Sticky transforms allow a transform to continue through an image change.

jack_norton wrote:I used the autoupdater though, not sure if that was ok. In practice the auto-images doesn't seem to work ?

So I defined an image directly but the error message shows up... (and I used auto updater too..)
And here's unicode problem. It's the project file.

Here's a savegame file without thumbnail.

Downloading!

Is anyone capable of reliably repeating the save bug? Or is it just totally random?

Sorry for the late reply, I didn't have access to my saves earlier, but I've attached one I think has the glitch. It always seems to happen at that one point, but not at other times where basically the same things are on screen; if I reload the save and then save again, the image shows up as usual, and if I fast-skip to that point and save I also don't get the glitch, so I'm not sure why it's triggering, really!

Also, while I was trying all this out, I found that for some reason the game crashes every time I try to return to the main menu from the game menu.

PyTom wrote:Is anyone capable of reliably repeating the save bug? Or is it just totally random?

The no-thumbnail bug? yes if you check Remember ME, every time you save in the map you get the black one.