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Re: Always Remember Me (VN/Life sim, commercial)

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 5:48 am
by jack_norton
Thanks :)
I'll definitely keep using the new system since not only reduced my time wasted on support (people unable to redownload, etc) but also I got lots of messages from people that like you love it, because is painless and instant (no need to wait).

The "luck factor" will be completely reduced in my future otome dating sims, will still be present but won't have such an impact on the game. As for Cristina Vee I'll have two new games with songs made by her, even if one is my Loren RPG so will have a more energetic/pop-rock soundtrack (I've heard the preview and I'd dare to say is much much better than the already good Remember Me track!).

If you go at anime conventions, in next one there *might be* (it's not 100% sure yet) a live performance of Cristina with Matt (the musician who composed the song), and they'll sing Remember Me. I really wish I was living close to US sometimes :(

Re: Always Remember Me (VN/Life sim, commercial)

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:00 pm
by papillon
But saying that the scenes/dialogues are disconnected (like if Eddy looks another person in each scene) in this case I don't agree
I *think* what e's saying is that they're not connected in the sense of plot, not in the sense of Eddy looking/acting differently. The scenes aren't clear about you starting off at the beginning of a possible relationship and showing progress as you get to know each other better - they happen sort of randomly, and (I think?) not in a set order either.

Nothing wrong with their personalities, just that there isn't clear story progression.

But I'm not the poster, I'm just guessing.

Re: Always Remember Me (VN/Life sim, commercial)

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:33 pm
by jack_norton
Hmm - I don't go much further in each relationship until the very end, because being a dating sim, is hard to take all the possible combinations into account. Having you kiss a character for example, would mean that after that he/she needs to behave differently (obviously) but also the main character should vs all the others. I think in a linear game is much easier/possible to obtain this "effect". But the scenes appear mostly in the same order, a few can happen in different order in the beginning, but in the end they are in succession (this is even more evident in Flower Shop and Spirited Heart).

Re: Always Remember Me (VN/Life sim, commercial)

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:13 am
by sporkysan
So I've been doing Eddy's path and I set off this event after going to visit him. The event mentions something about a dinner and how he confessed his feelings, but I didn't see that scene. I never went to Eddy's house for dinner and he didn't say anything about being in love with me. I triggered some cute scenes, but no confession.

Did anyone else run into this weird glitch?

I don't know if this matters but here is some information about my status in the game when this happened:
Date: July 28th
Eddy: 68%
Events triggered:
Eddy's office (He is talking to Abigail), gym, disco pub, mall
Discipline: 90%

Re: Always Remember Me (VN/Life sim, commercial)

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 3:32 am
by jack_norton
Ah! I need to investigate this, thanks for the report! You were playing in the "normal" mode I suppose?

Re: Always Remember Me (VN/Life sim, commercial)

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:57 am
by sporkysan
Yes. I was playing in normal mode. Also I continued playing and I triggered the dinner scene later in August. Maybe Eddy can see the future?

On another note I tried really hard and got 100% relationship points for Aaron and Eddy just to see what would happen. Even though discipline was maxed, it seems the default is Aaron. Or the game checks to see if Aaron is at 100% first and then moves on to check the relationship status of Eddy. Not saying that this is a problem. I'm just noting a game mechanic.

Re: Always Remember Me (VN/Life sim, commercial)

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:12 am
by jack_norton
Ah, then definitely somehow the game thought that scene was already triggered. Thanks for the info, I think will be able to find out the problem now.
And yes, the game works as you described, first choice will always be Aaron :)

Re: Always Remember Me (VN/Life sim, commercial)

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:47 pm
by ElviraNyx
I didn't want to download the DEMO because I didn't want to get attached to it since I know I wouldn't be able to buy it...But I CRACKED! I'm currently downloading the DEMO... I feel so annoyed that I won't be able to buy it :evil:. Apart from that...I CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY IT!!!

Re: Always Remember Me (VN/Life sim, commercial)

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:55 pm
by sporkysan
Good luck finding the problem.

Also I think it is sweet that Amy would choose Aaron over the other guys if she had the choice. Shows that she really does/did love him.

Re: Always Remember Me (VN/Life sim, commercial)

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:32 pm
by babyfish
sporkysan wrote: Also I think it is sweet that Amy would choose Aaron over the other guys if she had the choice. Shows that she really does/did love him.
... while at the same time sort of downplaying the appeal of choosing one from the group whom I affectionately call, 'the three other guys'. Spoilers and controversial opinions ahead.
The outcome of the entire game was either: You end up alone, you end up with Aaron, or you end up with one of 'the three other guys'. This was the main problem I had while playing the game. The gameplay was fun, and the game itself was visually appealing, but I really wasn't keen on pursuing the 'other three guys' while things were left unresolved between Aaron and Amy. Even when I did make myself go after one of the 'other three', the game doesn't really shed any positive light on the notion that Amy has moved on from Aaron. Instead, I felt as though it was shown as something of a tragic, and in a way, undesirable outcome. Abigail even calls out on Amy for neglecting her relationship with Aaron when she pursues one of 'the other three'. In a way, it feels as though the game is punishing us for not going for the 'intuitive' ending, which is getting back together with Aaron.

While the fact that Amy and Aaron are pulled apart by tragedy is bad enough, I really felt as though the game could have portrayed Amy 'moving on from Aaron' in a happier light, and that either of the 'three other guys' could have done more to help Amy let go of the past. Hell, things could have been happier for Aaron! I understand that this game was trying to go for a bittersweet ending. But in my opinion, the appeal of getting Aaron back causes the appeal of winning the hearts of the 'three other guys' pale in comparison.
Other than that, it was a pretty good game. The art was beautiful, and so was the music. The concept itself was enough to grab my attention, and I was pretty engaged in the plight of Amy and Aaron's relationship.

Re: Always Remember Me (VN/Life sim, commercial)

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:43 pm
by applegirl
That sounds great!! Although now I'm going to have my hopes build up for the next con she attends, haha~By the way, I've finished the game completely and really enjoyed it. After finishing, is there a way we can see all the beautiful art all in one location? Forgetting to take snapshots has led me to be a bit regretful. I've gotten all the endings, but I can't seem to find a way to see the rest of the art. Ah, it's so pretty! Considering the bad luck I had, it'd take a lot of saving and loading before I can see them again >.>

Edit:
I agree that the game made it sad that you picked another guy besides Aaron, but it made sense. The whole set up was to get him to remember you. Having the breaking heart picture and sad music really gave more emotional impact to it though, I actually liked the game putting it in a sad light. Because after all, you are choosing a guy other than your previous boyfriend. I thought it was actually a refreshing change in an otome game, because most of the time you don't see the consequences of not choosing the main guy. I kinda wish there were more scenes like the little "confrontation" between Hugh and Aaron though. Or maybe a more jealous Aaron? Gah, but if that happened, I wouldn't have been able to ignore him and get 100 with the other guys.

Re: Always Remember Me (VN/Life sim, commercial)

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:57 pm
by babyfish
applegirl wrote: Edit:
I agree that the game made it sad that you picked another guy besides Aaron, but it made sense. The whole set up was to get him to remember you. Having the breaking heart picture and sad music really gave more emotional impact to it though, I actually liked the game putting it in a sad light. Because after all, you are choosing a guy other than your previous boyfriend. I thought it was actually a refreshing change in an otome game, because most of the time you don't see the consequences of not choosing the main guy. I kinda wish there were more scenes like the little "confrontation" between Hugh and Aaron though. Or maybe a more jealous Aaron? Gah, but if that happened, I wouldn't have been able to ignore him and get 100 with the other guys.
I do agree with you. Storywise, the tragedy makes sense. When it comes to gameplay, however... well, let's say that after getting all of the endings, I didn't really find any appeal in pursuing any of the guys save for Aaron. I'm not saying that there shouldn't be any consequences, but in a game, there should be some reward for taking the unbeaten path and striking out towards a less 'canonical' ending.

Re: Always Remember Me (VN/Life sim, commercial)

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:00 am
by jack_norton
applegirl wrote:That sounds great!! Although now I'm going to have my hopes build up for the next con she attends, haha~By the way, I've finished the game completely and really enjoyed it. After finishing, is there a way we can see all the beautiful art all in one location? Forgetting to take snapshots has led me to be a bit regretful. I've gotten all the endings, but I can't seem to find a way to see the rest of the art.
There's the gallery option in main menu, that contains all the CGs scenes.
babyfish wrote:I'm not saying that there shouldn't be any consequences, but in a game, there should be some reward for taking the unbeaten path and striking out towards a less 'canonical' ending.
What, but the endings with the other guys are happy! She is broken/confused until the end but after the date where you finally get one of the other three guys, I don't think the game is unrewarding, rather the opposite... and during the endings that all happens after some days/weeks/months it shows that indeed Amy made the "right choice" with all the three boys.

Re: Always Remember Me (VN/Life sim, commercial)

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:15 pm
by babyfish
jack_norton wrote:What, but the endings with the other guys are happy! She is broken/confused until the end but after the date where you finally get one of the other three guys, I don't think the game is unrewarding, rather the opposite... and during the endings that all happens after some days/weeks/months it shows that indeed Amy made the "right choice" with all the three boys.
... Alright, that is true. :) The endings themselves were pretty sweet, and it's always nice to see a happy ending. I guess I'm looking too much at the journey(the gameplay) and not the destination(the endings). Still, storywise, gameplaywise, and character wise, the Aaron-endings are really the only ones that feel 'right' to me. Because of that, I didn't really feel attached to any of the 'other three guys', even though I liked them as characters.

Re: Always Remember Me (VN/Life sim, commercial)

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:12 pm
by sporkysan
jack_norton wrote:There's the gallery option in main menu, that contains all the CGs scenes.
Do you mean the Endings Gallery in the Extra section? I like that I can replay the ending, but I think I'd also like to be able to see the full cg image without playing through the scene.