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Re: Coming Out On Top (BxB, Dating, Comedy) - MINOR UPDATE 8

#106 Post by Starshine » Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:03 pm

...You do know that the MC basicly came out in the game (Hence the "Coming out" in the title)? So do you really think it'd be possible for that?[/quote]

This isn't an actual spoiler, just a responce via the old idea's from the original game.... which most likley confused me:
So basically there isn't any bi-sexuality in this game. I was thinking of the Idea's which were most likley scrapped where it stated "I really don't know what audience I'd be going for! Hopefully both, but I realize both audiences traditionally have different wants. I'm a hetero female but I'm also a good dealer older, I think, than most yaoi fans (though I could be wrong). Right now I'm not sure what category the final game will fall into, probably closer to something for a straight audience, but hopefully gay audiences could appreciate it too.", It made me think why wouldn't a gay audience appreciate it?, so i thought there was a little bi-sexuality in the game, and i thought Penny was date-able somehow. But thanks for clearing this up.
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#107 Post by Obscura » Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:14 pm

CheeryMoya wrote:A wild CheeryMoya has appeared!
Damn, I didn't think CheeryMoyas showed up until I hit level 20. I'm screwed.
Insert Moya's perception +5 review here.
Wow, just blow my mind, why don't you. It's like you were in my brain while I was making this. You are totally right about the intro. I actually had flashbacks for both Penny and Ian's intro scenes, but I ran out of time and they also seemed to break up the flow in the beginning. So yes, their intros are awkward and could be handled less clumsily. I'll play around with that in the next version or the next, next version, depending on how much time I devote to CGs this round.

All your criticisms are true and correct and echo my own feelings about the game as I made it, aside from, well, neck thickness. I never thought it was an issue. You know what they say about neck size. grhgsjjdfsjf Now I'm really gonna be conscious about that in every game I make and play. You've all been warned. Also, thank you for your notes about anatomy...I had to sit through like, so many naked dude videos to get it correct. It was really difficult, so I'm glad all that boring research paid off.

I cried many invisible tears reading your review...I'm feeling so dramatic violins right now.

Flattered you dropped into the world of B/B before returning to your native land. Glad you enjoyed your stay.

* edit > Cheerymoya's LP of this is a work of staggering genius. Stay tuned. I'd say my game is worth playing if just to read her spin on it. *snicker*
KashyaCharsi wrote:I know I don't have too much people skills, but it seems weird to me that a single encounter is enough for both of them to become distractingly lovesick (besides, if I were in that awkward situation, I would probably just say "sorry, I didn't know", then laugh it off), and inconsistent of Alex to dread scandal and sometimes even treat Mark like a stalker (like "there never, ever, ever will be anything between us, understood?"), but call him aside to his office suspiciously often.
Thanks. It's a good point and I'm going to see if I can try to add a touch more interaction in either of the next two versions so it's more realistic, without slowing down the tempo of the story. I say that like it's going to be so easy for me to do, instead of the amount of head-banging-on-keyboard it will actually require *laughs maniacally.*
Starshine wrote:This game was really fun:
First of all i liked how you was able to choose a first and second name, and it actually appears on you're student card, and sometimes certian characters like Ian for example will address you by you're second name. Penny and Ian were really nice characters, they were ok when the character came out of his closet, i loved when Penny used her phone app to take picture, it was so modern. You must have drawn loads of sprites for this game. Alex and my character got it on in the bar, I eventually found out that Alex... was like some sort of teacher, and if i was that character in real life i would feel ashamed, so i went with the flow and tried to avoid him only to find out he gave me big fat F which resulted in a game over....
Haha, sorry, all these endings should be revised in the bigger game, since you'll have more options with other people. Thanks for your feedback...I really appreciate it. Sprites got cumbersome when I realized making two poses would mean any additional clothing changes would require about 100 years worth of additional work. So they all only have 1 change of clothes for now...but thanks for your kind words.
Very fun game, so many choices to make, loved Penny she was like a really outgoing character, i wonder if there was any way to date her...
Hmmm....this would be...quite a feat. Maybe if this game gets more traction, I could make a side game just involving Penny and hetero relationships. However, I don't think she'd be good relationship material. She gets her rocks off from programming, and she's rather spend her day coding and IMing over anything that involves breaking a sweat. Also, bodily fluids gross her out.
Starshine wrote:...You do know that the MC basicly came out in the game (Hence the "Coming out" in the title)? So do you really think it'd be possible for that?
So basically there isn't any bi-sexuality in this game. I was thinking of the Idea's which were most likley scrapped where it stated "I really don't know what audience I'd be going for! Hopefully both, but I realize both audiences traditionally have different wants. I'm a hetero female but I'm also a good dealer older, I think, than most yaoi fans (though I could be wrong). Right now I'm not sure what category the final game will fall into, probably closer to something for a straight audience, but hopefully gay audiences could appreciate it too.", It made me think why wouldn't a gay audience appreciate it?, so i thought there was a little bi-sexuality in the game, and i thought Penny was date-able somehow. But thanks for clearing this up.
Jesus, I don't remember even posting that. I want to do a sci-fi game in the future that will be bisexual and stuff, but for this series I doubt there's going to be much outside of B/B. Thanks for the suggestion though.
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Re: Coming Out On Top (BxB, Dating, Comedy) - MINOR UPDATE 8

#108 Post by KashyaCharsi » Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:25 pm

I liked Penny, too, she is cool.

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#109 Post by Obscura » Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:36 pm

Also, I want to ask if you wanted to address homophobia in this game or if you didn't, because there weren't any characters who really showed that type of attitude in the story. It could be explained by stating that Orlin's climate towards LGBT is accepting, but I'm curious nonetheless.
Oh shoot, totally forgot to answer Cheerymoya's homophobia question. Yeah, this is actually a major plot line for one of the other relationships. I didn't touch on it in Coming Out On Top v.1 because it I wanted to keep it the themes simple and keep Alex's plot line in the direction of light comedy. As it stands, all 3 of the other relationships touch on more serious themes. It's still primarily a comedy though. More Armistead Maupin than Michael Cunningham, to name two famous writers whose abilities I can never, ever hope to touch...
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#110 Post by Obscura » Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:36 pm

KashyaCharsi wrote:I liked Penny, too, she is cool.
Thanks, Penny approves of this message.

(*sorry-all hell broke loose while i was editing my two last responses, if anybody's wondering...)
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Re: Coming Out On Top (BxB, Dating, Comedy) - MINOR UPDATE 8

#111 Post by CheeryMoya » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:26 pm

Obscura wrote:* edit > Cheerymoya's LP of this is a work of staggering genius. Stay tuned. I'd say my game is worth playing if just to read her spin on it. *snicker*
Lovely, an audience. Your perspective of me will change once we're away from a proper and intelligent forum.
Yeah, this is actually a major plot line for one of the other relationships. I didn't touch on it in Coming Out On Top v.1 because it I wanted to keep it the themes simple and keep Alex's plot line in the direction of light comedy. As it stands, all 3 of the other relationships touch on more serious themes. It's still primarily a comedy though. More Armistead Maupin than Michael Cunningham, to name two famous writers whose abilities I can never, ever hope to touch...
I see, even more reason to check out Redux to see how you handle the subject in this type of game. I'm looking forward to it more and more :3

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#112 Post by KashyaCharsi » Sat Aug 04, 2012 5:49 am

At one point I was also expecting Ian to come out to Mark :D

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#113 Post by Obscura » Sat Aug 04, 2012 6:36 am

The longer game is going to have a truckload of Ian drama. Don't you worry. :twisted:
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#114 Post by Obscura » Sat Aug 04, 2012 7:07 am

Lovely, an audience. Your perspective of me will change once we're away from a proper and intelligent forum.
Teehee.
I see, even more reason to check out Redux to see how you handle the subject in this type of game. I'm looking forward to it more and more :3
Thank you! It will be in the longer version though, not Redux. :mrgreen: Redux is mostly eye candy.
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#115 Post by Moon20 » Sat Aug 04, 2012 7:32 am

When can we play the next version of Coming Out on Top?

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#116 Post by KashyaCharsi » Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:40 am

Yes, it was great even as a demo, I can't wait to see the full version.

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#117 Post by Obscura » Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:29 pm

@ Moon20

Version 2.0 will be ready at the end of this month (more CGs and extras for the Alex storyline.)

The long game will probably take me a while to complete--at least a year or two. One of the reasons being: I'm doing all the writing and sprites myself while juggling a job. If I am able to run a successful Kickstarter campaign, or something to that effect, I could really shorten how long this takes. Basically still deciding what to do. Getting a campaign together will mean that I have to find all those people who like B/B who aren't VN players already (because the VN market is already so tiny.)

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Thanks so much!
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#118 Post by Moon20 » Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:07 am

Oh okey, thank you for your answer Obscura

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#119 Post by KashyaCharsi » Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:52 am

I love VN games where I can seduce a gay man. If there was a visual novel about The Picture of Dorian Gray, I would jump at Basil in no time :mrgreen:

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#120 Post by Obscura » Sun Aug 05, 2012 1:56 pm

KashyaCharsi wrote:I love VN games where I can seduce a gay man. If there was a visual novel about The Picture of Dorian Gray, I would jump at Basil in no time :mrgreen:
I always felt so sorry for Basil...
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