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riiko08 wrote:

As for Royal, I love tsun tsun characters as well, but given the length of the story we're aiming, the progression will be very slow if Royal would always remain grumpy and I didn't want to make the players feel "rushed" when Royal is all grumpy at the beginning and then suddenly becomes so sweet at the end. So I had to gradually let Royal open up. (I hope you get what I mean. I suck at explaining OTL)

Thank you so much for playing! //cries

Bellethiel wrote:I played in Royal (normal end) -> Sol (normal end) -> Deon (normal end) -> Deon (best end) -> Royal (best end) -> Sol (best end) order.

Let me tell you tho, getting Royal's best ending drove me crazy.

But it was worth it, I absolutly adore my main menu cg now.

In my opinion for first game it was great job. Well done.

Question time:

1. In general I liked it, even if it was cliche at times. Some parts were also quite easy to figure out early on. For example

I started off with Royal's route, and I knew he had a thing for Gold the moment he was pouting next to the mirror

. Good job with wrapping up the story, even tho game isn't really long. I loved the fairytale feel, when it came to whole curse buisness.

2. I would say... Deon, which was a big surprise for me. I was convinced I will like Royal most since tsundere for life and all but in the end that was not the case.

Why?

Firstly, he is the only one who does not have another girl around him. Royal has hots for Gold, and Lilly has hots for Sol so it felt kinda awkward at times.
I was kinda sceptical when it came to this love at first sight thing, but since he was lonely fella I guess it makes sense in a way.
I think only in this route Aura really comes to terms with her dad's death? I really liked it.
I also liked the fact that in this route Sol had to actually take some time after talking with Deon, before forgiving him. Deon's freindship with Royal was also nice addon. I also liked how Aura didn't have a chance to feel insecure about being in the house after everything was over since Deon is all like LET ME LOVE YOU.

3. There was only one thing which really bugged me. It might be just my personal preference though.

I didn't like how Royal was "accidentialy" showing his softer side right from the start. He is supposed to be grumpy to hide his feelings, isolate himself from people and all that, and yet in one of the first scenes he manages to stand next to mirror lost in thought, sad looking, mumbling about his devotion to Gold, while Aura is watching him. He had few moments like that, when in my opinion he was opening his heart to fast, just to be like OH SNAP I DIDN'T MEAN TO SAY THAT, seconds later.
Aside from that, since I love my tsunderes sad puppy looks, I loved him anyway (he lost to Deon tho!).

4. Err... I usually stay away from commercial games since currency exchange ratio is making them ridiculously expensive for me killing me.

Akitsuki wrote:DOWNLOADING NOW HNNNGGGGG THIS LOOKS SO BEAUTIFUL AND INTERESTING--

Erikka wrote:oh my God! OH MY GOD!!!
Why I've never noticed tis project before??! It looks really good... Deon - it's totally my type! Downloading the game!

Pinlin wrote:KOORIIIKOOO I'VE BEEN WAITING SO LONG FOR THIS.

Okay, I haz calmed down.

I just downloaded the game but need to wait till I get back from school tomorrow. I've played the demo before and it was very satisfying. Now I'm dying to know happens next. After I've played all routes, I'll write my thoughts and experiences. Really, every character looks interesting. I'll take my sweet time =w=

onewschicken wrote:This game is amazing!
I really enjoyed all 3 routes, so far I have obtained all the normal endings and 2/3 best endings. You did amazing on this game
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1. What do you think of the story?
I thought it was really well thought out, I enjoyed the overall story as much as I enjoyed each route. I loved how each route revealed something different about the story.
2. Which route did you liked the most and why?
Originally my favorite was Royal's route but then after I played Deon's he really captured my heart especially once he gave us his sad back story and how contrary to what everyone believed hebwas actually the most self-less out of everyone! His route made my heart ache the most but it also made me the happiest
3. Any constructive criticisms? So we'll know what we should improve on for our next projects *A*
I didn't really notice anything besides the overwrite save bug, which you had mentioned already. So other than that great job!
4. Just curious, if this was a commercial game, how much are you willing to pay for it? Assuming I have own credit card, bc my parents would never let me use their card since they're so skeptical, I'd be willing to pay $5-$10.
Since this game is so well done and such good quality
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Good luck on your future projects, I look forward to them ^^

pyopyon wrote:1. What do you think of the story?

I loved it! I thought it was very interesting and I really liked the combination of Goldilocks and the Three Bears mixed with Beauty and the Beast. I actually adore fairy tale retellings-- and I laughed a lot when Aura spoke about the 'childhood story' when she nicknamed them Papa Bear, Mama Bear, and Baby Bear. Go in-universe shoutouts!!

Separate from my favorite route, I will say that I think Deon's storyline had... a lot going on and it took away from his route. There was the storyline about her father, and about her relationship with music, and then that of his relationship with Sol... I think the storyline about Sol and Deon took the most attention and as a result, it made the storylines about the music seem rushed and really, largely unaddressed. Plus, because Sol's own route was also about his relationship with his brother, it felt a little, little bit redundant. Just a little bit though. I still liked playing Deon and Sol's routes!

I also wondered at the timeline... If the curse was only seven years, and Aura is maybe fifteen, why didn't she know about her mother working as a chef for the d'Lockes? Aura has clearly never met the toymaker, and the toymaker gave no indication that she also erase Aura's memories, so I was a little confused about why she wouldn't know her mother was away working for them. The fact that toymaker said she sent Rua away made me think that Rua lived with the d'Lockes family, coupled with the fact that the toys all knew Rua as the family's cook, but didn't know Aura. Does that makes sense? Like if Rua lives with the d'Lockes as their chef, then why didn't Aura live with them, too? If she didn't live with them, how could the toymaker send her away when the curse was already in action and the last person to see the toymaker off was Royal?

A solution to the 'how doesn't Aura know them already' could be that Aura lived with her father while her mother lived far away with the d'Lockes as a chef and visited often, or something to that extent, but I wasn't sure about Rua being sent away/ how the toys wouldn't know what happened to her.

I know it's a fairytale but I take notice of things like that;; I'm sorry!

2. Which route did you liked the most and why?

Papa Bear!!

But honestly, all the routes were really good! The fairytale was darker than expected, considering the cute art and general light-heartedness of the heroine, but then you have people dying and everything and I was kind of like o: from the emotional whiplash. Such a great mix.

I just like Papa Bear's archetype the most. Grumpy love interests are always my favorite. I enjoyed all of the routes thoroughly, so the only reason I like Royal the most is because I liked Royal's character type the most. Each story was quite good! Ah, one thing I wished was that we got to see Royal do something butler-ey, like making tea or serving Aura something. (I also like the butler character so I was a teeny bit disappointed on that front XD.)

3. Any constructive criticisms? So we'll know what we should improve on for our next projects *A*

I already talked about the timeline thing... but the ones that I really thought about as well were about Miss Maria and Lillie.

Miss Maria really needed to be expanded upon... I really didn't know her as a character and I wish I did. Even though Aura comments on how young she looks,and how her eyes are a startling red... we never get much information as to whether those things are significant. It would've been nice to know who she was, especially since if she's in her mid-to-late twenties, she would've already been a late-teen/young adult when the curse was activated. I really though there was going to be more about her character, since she would've been the oldest surviving member pre-curse so I would've liked to know more.

Same with Lillie. Sol mentions they're friends, but I wondered if they were friends before the curse and who Lillie was. In my mind, I decided that Lillie was the old butler's daughter and thus sort of like a sister to Royal when I read the scene in Deon's route about her trying to console him, but him refusing to talk to her... but then they barely spoke to each other in the other routes. TT__TT

So I guess, my CC is to say if you want side characters to not just be wasted sprites, I would definitely give some backgrounds to them. I liked them so I wanted to know more... but we don't find out anything more from them. Even the bio on this thread gives more information on Miss Maria, because I had no clue she was a head tutor or anything like that. I didn't really get a Demon Nanny vibe because she rarely appeared (except in Deon's route when she and Aura spoke about Deon while doing the laundry.

AH! And I almost forgot-- Deon's route... Aura says they rushed her father to the hospital and it really took me out of the story for a moment. Maybe 'fetched the doctor' would be better. Hospitals are just so modern that it took me by surprise.

Ah, and (oh, I realized I keep saying 'ah'. It's because I keep coming back to this window when I remember something. Haha. Anyway!) it surprised me that Sol's route had the most automatic(?) CGs. It seems like the other routes, you got CGs based off of the right choice, but with this one, most of Sol's CGs you got from the kinetic parts of the storyline. It's not bad, but something I noticed.

This isn't really CC, but I found a small coding error--

after I unlocked Royal's best ending and the menu CG changes, the original, three bears main menu CG in the gallery becomes unavailable for viewing. It says, "Image 'cg mainmenu1' not found." After I unlocked Deon's best ending, it still says that.

4. Just curious, if this was a commercial game, how much are you willing to pay for it?

The length plus the amount of art makes me say a solid $7, but

if Miss Maria and Lillie were given character development and the routes were evened out (Excuse me if I'm wrong, but was Deon's route longer than Royal or Sol's?) I would pay $9.99USD. (Idk why but 9.99 seems cheaper than $10 looolll.) The plot wrinkles in the timeline would also be great if straightened out or addressed.

Random Opinions:

I really liked the Locked Heart icon and the bears, too. I really loved the GUI!! The buttons for making choices especially, and the quitting pages. The only think I thought about was the font. I think it fit on the menu pages and such but it did seem a little bit gaudy when being used as the reading text. I think something a little more plain should've be used so it's easier to read.

Also, I think text shouldn't cover the heart on the right side of the text box, but it should stay indented like it is when Aura is in the right side of the text box. It's not bad, but because the length of the line changed when Aura was there or not there, it made it a little harder to read. Plus, I thought the heart was pretty so it would've been nice to see.

The music is really good, by the way. (Right now I'm listening to it, haha.)

I think it would've been cute if bear!Deon also got human!Deon's sparkles. Deon's sparkle was one of my favorite little details. I think my favorite CG was Royal's CG after the curse is partially broken and you get to see his hottie human self. I really didn't expect it! What a hottie, I mean seriously!! After three bear CGs, I was totally Heart Eyes-- and as a bonus, I actually thought the curse would be broken at the end, so I didn't know you would see their human forms so much... after seeing Royal (who I played first) I am eternally grateful. LOL.

I hope that even through my criticisms you see how much I love this game! I love it a lot! Please don't mistake me! This is an excellent game! Also I haven't gotten Sol's best ending... it's the only one... so I'll update this when I do! Thanks for your hard work!!

pyopyon wrote:Ah, yes. It seems that even though I have unlocked the special menu, I cannot open the old menu CG or the new menu CG in the gallery. )^':

Thanks again for this game! And I finally resorted to the guide for Sol's perfect route ; 3 ; My pride is hurt but my heart is delighted. Sol <333