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Re: MorningStar Zwei (NaNo 2009 late release) v1.2

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 1:12 pm
by ficedula
squark: It's possible. We did play through all the routes, including that one. Which isn't to say that's it's easy - just possible.

(Also, since you do level up faster if you win battles, that will affect how hard things are. If you've lost every battle prior to that - or most of them - you are going to be a lower level than if you'd won every battle.)


DarkSpartan: Yeah, I moved the website to a new server a while ago and some things are missing. I've re-uploaded the games so you can at least download them;

MorningStar (original) (Windows)
MorningStar Zwei (Windows)
MorningStar Zwei (OSX)

Re: MorningStar Zwei (NaNo 2009 late release) v1.2

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 2:57 pm
by Crocosquirrel
Thank you thank you :) Now to while my day away playing both ;)

Edit: It doesn't seem to like Win7 much. Made several attempts to get it launched, including installing .NET 3.5 and 4, and still no dice. The attached text may help you, and it may not.

Re: MorningStar Zwei (NaNo 2009 late release) v1.2

Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:49 pm
by squark
The original does work on Windows 7, using it myself.
It DOES however require that some settings be changed, and it mightn't work first time. I needed to restart before it would.
Does the original have problems with non-english System Locale? Mine was set to Japanese a while back, and refused to run the game.... When I had Win XP.
Anyway, the settings I'm using are

[Compatibility]

Run this program under compatibility for:
Windows XP (Service Pack 2)
Disable Visual Themes
Disable Visual Composition

Run this program as an Administrator

The visual themes and composition interfere with it somehow, so they need to be disabled, reverting to to Windows 7 Basic colour scheme. XP Compatibility and Administrator mode just as a precaution. I also have the UAC query panel disabled if that helps. Hope it works now!

Also: Thanks, Fice. Now I have something to aim for... and I lost bad when I'd won all but one fight before the event.

Re: MorningStar Zwei (NaNo 2009 late release) v1.2

Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:02 pm
by chunderbunny
I recall when testing the game I beat the final boss with one character about 1 in 10 times, so I think it is really just a case of good luck and a bit of skill. :)

Just make use of those quicksaves I suppose...

Re: MorningStar Zwei (NaNo 2009 late release) v1.2

Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:14 pm
by Crocosquirrel
Hrmmmm... No dice. It gives me the same error. It seems to think I'm missing a .dll?

Re: MorningStar Zwei (NaNo 2009 late release) v1.2

Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:20 pm
by ficedula
Do you get the error as soon as you click on the application to run it, or after the screen to select options (full screen or windows) appears?

Re: MorningStar Zwei (NaNo 2009 late release) v1.2

Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:29 pm
by Crocosquirrel
It *was* right away... Until I read the rest of the instructions. :oops: A long-overdue reboot, and it's working great :)

The visual themes thing seems to have been what was causing it.

Thank you, Squark and Fice for all the help and opportunity to have the issue in the first place ;)

Re: MorningStar Zwei (NaNo 2009 late release) v1.2

Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:11 pm
by squark
You're very welcome, DarkSpartan. Just glad to be of service ^_^
Hehehe, chunderbunny... I just have terrible runs of luck sometimes =P

Re: MorningStar Zwei (NaNo 2009 late release) v1.2

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:29 am
by Ramidel
I've been trying to run this on Windows Vista, and what happened on my current computer is strange...

When I start it up, I get the message "Sylph has stopped working" the moment it boots up. Same crash as above.

I've tried running it in compatibility mode with the disables you mentioned (and as an administrator), but without any luck.

Any idea what's wrong?

Re: MorningStar Zwei (NaNo 2009 late release) v1.2

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:36 am
by ficedula
Sometimes the .NET 3.5 installer we included with the game doesn't seem to install everything required. You could try installing the full version from:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/d ... laylang=en

and see if that helps.

Re: MorningStar Zwei (NaNo 2009 late release) v1.2

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:56 am
by Ramidel
Well, I'm getting some progress now, because I managed to irritate the thing into a different crash text.

Problem Signature 09: System.BadImageFormatException

instead of a DLL issue.

Re: MorningStar Zwei (NaNo 2009 late release) v1.2

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:58 am
by ficedula
That's sort of bad but at least informative: it indicates one of the EXE or DLL files is corrupt. Hopefully it just means the download of the game was corrupted and re-downloading it should work fine.

If not, it possibly indicates something a bit worse wrong with your system...

Re: MorningStar Zwei (NaNo 2009 late release) v1.2

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:04 am
by Ramidel
Tried redownloading and it didn't work. Which probably means that my system just won't cooperate.

Ah well.

Re: MorningStar Zwei (NaNo 2009 late release) v1.2

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:26 am
by IceD
If you want to play it badly, you can try to emulate a win XP enviroment through a virtual PC and it might work without any problems. For that, try Microsoft's Virtual PC or Oracle's VirtualBox (which is IMO better). Virutal Box is very easy to set up and it won't take you long. It's a bit a hassle to set up a virtual enviroment just to play a game, but I think this is worth all the hard work :)

Re: MorningStar Zwei (NaNo 2009 late release) v1.2

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:34 am
by ficedula
Thanks for the kind words ;)

I'll be honest though - a BadImageFormatException indicates a corrupted file and however the files are getting corrupt, a virtual PC isn't likely to fix that. Particularly if re-downloading the file didn't help I'd be worried about bad hardware on the PC - although that isn't necessarily the case.

(Anything's possible, though, I guess it could be some rubbish anti-virus on the main PC messing things up which wouldn't necessarily be the case on a VPC...or one of a number of other things.)