Forte Stollen is the spelling used by the translated manga, FWIW. Although the oldest and most senior, I think calling her the leader might be a bit of a stretch.lordcloudx wrote:Forte Schtollen is the guns-otaku leader of the galaxy angels (not sure about the spelling, I spell em as I hear em).
But... without a specific personality in mind, wouldn't you just end up with dull, mundane conversations? Personally, I feel like I need to a have a personality in mind to help drive the conversation. I got to a point in my story where I needed some dialog between two characters, but I had no idea what to write. After some frustration, I decided to define the characters a little better, and then writing became easier.mikey wrote:I don't like character design. Choosing a personality, making sure that personality manifests in conversations etc.. and all those sorts of things.
About the macho man... I think these days male characters have migrated to "looking cool" more than macho man. And over the years, we have also seen more females taken more variety of roles other than normal weakling female.I still see more stereotypical macho guys and weak girls in stuff ...wether movies...anime...games..or whatever than I do the kind of characters I like.
I stand corrected PyTom. I've only seen the anime. I heard the manga has a more continuous story... I like the randomness of the anime though.PyTom wrote:Forte Stollen is the spelling used by the translated manga, FWIW. Although the oldest and most senior, I think calling her the leader might be a bit of a stretch.lordcloudx wrote:Forte Schtollen is the guns-otaku leader of the galaxy angels (not sure about the spelling, I spell em as I hear em).
In the manga, that role falls to Takuto, who IIRC is the POV character of the games. (Just to bring this on topic.)
In the anime, Forte is the leader, but that job often devolves into herding cats.
Hahaha , that would be me. I prefer chatting with someone online rather than in person. It's much easier for me to sort out my thoughts and get a conversation going this way. I worry too much about too many things and I hate crowds , bugs , sunlight , ect. so I don't go out much unless I'm shopping or staying over at my mom's for a couple of days or a week or something like that. "Lately" though I've been wanting to go out more often. The other day I saw "road to rock" which was fun. I haven't been to a beach or amusement park or anything like that in a long time though. I miss stuff like that.some person who is really shy and doesnt like to talk.
Hmm , I think that is true in a way but in other ways it isn't...like the aforementioned panties incident. There's gotta be something wrong with a guy who has the nerve to say something about how nice and fresh your panties are when you're still standing ( or whatever ) right there.average joe who just has lots of kindness
In anime, I think that the characters typically have very exaggerated personalities - it isn't always the case, but usually. A lot of the popularity rests on them, and so on. I do have to advise, that I am more or less a minority as far as this problem in concerned - I think less character design and a shift towards less distinctive personalities would be the better way - then again, this isn't the case in commercial anime as that needs to have a selling point and, best of all, some characters that the fans will like. So yes, it's kind of a useless thought, but it's minemonele wrote:I'm a bit confused mikey ô_o... Are you saying the anime type of characters is unavoidable and you're ok with it or do you think there's something to do about it... and if so, what ?
Yes, probably the conversations would seem a bit more ordinary - but I'd also differ between giving the characters opinions (like one supports something and the other one doesn't) and giving them personalities (like a backstabber, untalkative etc...). The former is what I'd prefer to do to liven up the things.ShiraiJunichi wrote:But... without a specific personality in mind, wouldn't you just end up with dull, mundane conversations? Personally, I feel like I need to a have a personality in mind to help drive the conversation. I got to a point in my story where I needed some dialog between two characters, but I had no idea what to write. After some frustration, I decided to define the characters a little better, and then writing became easier.
Yeah, I've been thinking about something along those lines as well. I guess there are more ways to define a character than just by his/her personality traits. When designing characters you can also specify mannerisms, speech patterns, hobbies, likes, dislikes, etc. And in fact, I think that's the kind of character design I did before I was able to resume writing.mikey wrote:ut I'd also differ between giving the characters opinions (like one supports something and the other one doesn't) and giving them personalities (like a backstabber, untalkative etc...). The former is what I'd prefer to do to liven up the things.
I agree with this. It's FAR easier for me to emphathize with a young woman questioning herself because she doesn't feel like she belongs anywhere or a young man who is haunted by a romance that went horribly wrong (Final Fantasy 6 references) versus someone who's got it all together. In the former, most people can relate to *not being part of a group* or being haunted by something in the past. It makes them more believable, and therefore you can emphathize with their problems. It's a far cry from Joe Perfect, who has everything going for him, and doesn't have any problems.ShiraiJunchi wrote:But ren'ai games are a bit different. I don't understand why someone would want more normal characters in anime (except in cases like Asuka... >_< ), but I understand for ren'ai games. Normal people fall in love with normal people (or at least I hope they do), so having more normal characters in a game can make it more realistic, plus it can allow the player to empathize with the character more (possiblly).
I agree as well... Plus, I don't think that normal means shallow or boring either - any real/normal girl has the complexity of all the anime characters in a production put together - so for the writer it's all a matter of knowing how to allow the character to show it.ShiraiJunichi wrote:But ren'ai games are a bit different. I don't understand why someone would want more normal characters in anime (except in cases like Asuka... >_< ), but I understand for ren'ai games. Normal people fall in love with normal people (or at least I hope they do), so having more normal characters in a game can make it more realistic, plus it can allow the player to empathize with the character more (possiblly).
I suspect it worked better as a novel. Yeah , but doesn't all Anime? lolThe characters in most shoujo animes also tend to have slightly exaggerated personalities
Yes! here are my sentiments on that subject matter.kara24601 wrote:Yeah , but doesn't all Anime? lolThe characters in most shoujo animes also tend to have slightly exaggerated personalities
I'd have to say most but not all.
As for the royalty thingy, I think the real issue is whether princess diane (diana? wateva jus makin a speculation here) was actually even in love... or something like that
Gotta agree with you about anime there... because... at Radical Dreamers 2002 we believe that... Anime will make you happy!
kara24601 wrote:That's a big part of why I love Anime , they can take it to such extremes and you can still find yourself laughing and relating to certain situations / characters somehow.
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