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Re: Non-Japanese comics

#16 Post by MaiMai » Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:19 am

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Maybe I should give superhero comics another chance?
I'm not sure how behind in Gunnerkrig Court I am : | Cucumber Quest sounds fun, and Hemlock sounds vaguely familiar... I will check them out at some point! Thanks for linking them~
I certainly am giving them another chance after the Avenger's movie blew me away and sparked my interest again. Before, as a manga fan I wouldn't have been attracted to any superhero comics since there's all those issues of continuity, different artists, and different writers. I would have been quite happy with my linear manga/anime story lines. But I suppose after so many years of that, I started to look for different types of media to desaturate all the anime tropes that I've drowned in.

Really all those "problems" I've mentioned above are actually part of the fun. I love looking at all the different art styles there are for superhero comics it's so varied from godawful to something you have to give credit for being awesome. Same goes for writing and story lines that can get confusing. But I think instead of trying to approach superhero comics in a linear fashion, I'd just go, pick up an issue. If I like what I see and read, it's worth sticking to. And like it or not, American superhero comics are pretty much part of American culture history! It's really fascinating to me how far they've come since then.

And really if you're not into superhero comics, but want something other than manga, I personally depend on webcomics haha wow I rambled.
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Re: Non-Japanese comics

#17 Post by Deji » Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:55 am

MaiMai wrote: Before, as a manga fan I wouldn't have been attracted to any superhero comics since there's all those issues of continuity, different artists, and different writers. I would have been quite happy with my linear manga/anime story lines. But I suppose after so many years of that, I started to look for different types of media to desaturate all the anime tropes that I've drowned in.

Really all those "problems" I've mentioned above are actually part of the fun. I love looking at all the different art styles there are for superhero comics it's so varied from godawful to something you have to give credit for being awesome. Same goes for writing and story lines that can get confusing. But I think instead of trying to approach superhero comics in a linear fashion, I'd just go, pick up an issue. If I like what I see and read, it's worth sticking to.
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It was *hard* for me to get into superhero comics, because of the art. Too many years of being spoiled by manga!
What sparked my curiosity was Green Lantern, to be honest (NOT THE MOVIE, BTW, THAT MADE ME CRY); a friend of mine was reading it when Blackest Night was being published and spammed the hell out of her tumblr and twitter with art and fanart and merchandise and I thought the myth behind it was really cool, so I thought I'd give it a try... And I found myself enjoying it very much, even though in the beginning it was rather painful to read some of the numbers with really... ugh... bad art x_x But the parts with good art and the cool alien characters were just <3 Also with the whole crossover event thingie I came to get acquainted with other DC characters and I picked up some of their titles too and it was overall a very cool experience, even if I dropped DC on the reboot event ^^; (I just couldn't get into Flashpoint *shrugs*)
I've been trying to pick up Marvel after the Marvel Movieverse movies, which I happen to like a lot, but I've found it kind of hard because they have SO. MANY. CHARACTERS. I read through Fear Itself and it was also a fun thing. It was fun to notice the differences between the approach to superheroes by DC and Marvel, too.

Art-wise, I ended up liking the realistic approach, the coloring, the whole... staging of each panel, which was very different from what I was used to in manga, and even came to dislike generic manga/anime art after a while o__o

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Bottomline: if you plan to be any kind of artist/drafstperson/illustrator, it's good to expose yourself to different kind of art, not only what you're used to like ;)
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Re: Non-Japanese comics

#18 Post by PyTom » Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:28 am

Deji wrote:it was overall a very cool experience, even if I dropped DC on the reboot event
I had pretty much the same experience with The Amazing Spider-Man. I picked it up on JMS's run on the book - where there were some cool stories like the whole Ezekiel arc. But then the Civil War crossover hit, and now you have Spider-Man as a minor character in his own book - and the Civil War story basically destroyed the character to the point where they had to do a mini-reboot of the series. And the way they did that threw out all of the continuity I had been familiar with, to the point where I dropped the book.
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Re: Non-Japanese comics

#19 Post by Joey » Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:24 pm

I've always been a fan of Neil Gaiman's Sandman but my interest in American comics got rekindled recently by the Walking Dead. I think if you're apprehensive about following a convoluted superhero comic timeline then TWD (and others like it) is probably for you -- the storyline is linear and the art style only changes once, and not very noticeably. It's even in black-and-white so it's not a very big leap for manga fans. The story's really good though, I suggest people give it a try :3
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Re: Non-Japanese comics

#20 Post by cuttlefish » Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:57 am

junna wrote:I've been collecting graphic novels of Shakespeare's plays, teen novels like Maximum Ride and Twilight
Gosh, who makes those? I'm not sure I've run into any comics that were an adaptation of a novel or play.
PyTom wrote:I read through Invincible recently.
I also liked Marvel's Runaways books.
Oh, those sound interesting. I will try to get my hands on them at some point.
Obscura wrote:The first comic I really loved was Lynda Barry's Marlys and Maybonne books, followed by Neil Gaiman's Sandman series. I am also crazy about Daniel Clowes. I guess I've always liked alt comics, many of which emphasize story over art (if you've seen any of these series, you'll note the art is probably the weakest point about any of these comics.)
I'm not sure if you mean the art is "ugly" or the art does not tell the story well (but probably the former)? Nonetheless, I will give these comics a look see!
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Is Batman Beyond Unlimited's story like a time skip for Batman?
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Ah :0 Well, that sounds a bit more manageable to understand. It's been a while since I kept up with anything Batman, and then I heard about how
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MaiMai wrote:Before, as a manga fan I wouldn't have been attracted to any superhero comics since there's all those issues of continuity, different artists, and different writers.
Continuity is my main problem with superhero comics. But truthfully, I haven't read many superhero comics and mostly know superheroes by their animated series. I think I might check out an X-Men comic next time I visit the library.
MaiMai wrote:And really if you're not into superhero comics, but want something other than manga, I personally depend on webcomics
Thank you for adding to my webcomics list ; )
Deji wrote:Bottomline: if you plan to be any kind of artist/drafstperson/illustrator, it's good to expose yourself to different kind of art, not only what you're used to like
I agree. Although it's silly, I still tend to judge a book by its cover. VNs have helped me get past this thinking, for the most part.
Joey wrote:I think if you're apprehensive about following a convoluted superhero comic timeline then TWD (and others like it) is probably for you -- the storyline is linear and the art style only changes once, and not very noticeably. It's even in black-and-white so it's not a very big leap for manga fans. The story's really good though, I suggest people give it a try :3
I will give it a try : ]

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Re: Non-Japanese comics

#21 Post by C7N » Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:36 am

I read The Friendly Winter, that's a really great manwha web comic about a girl with a growth disorder who becomes friends with a guy that has a mental disorder. It's not only about how they deal with their disabilities, but also about the girl's mother who abandoned her when she was really young. Full of drama, but pretty addictive.
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Re: Non-Japanese comics

#22 Post by junna » Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:45 am

cuttlefish wrote:
junna wrote:I've been collecting graphic novels of Shakespeare's plays, teen novels like Maximum Ride and Twilight
Gosh, who makes those? I'm not sure I've run into any comics that were an adaptation of a novel or play.
Err...no idea who thought of it but they do... the Shakespeare graphic novel has a distinctively err...comic-book/Western style drawings whereas the novels like Twilight, Maximum Ride and Sherrilyn Kenyon's Dark Hunter series have a distinctively manga/manhwa style. The artist for the Maximum Ride grpahic novel even has a Korean-ish name. lol. All of them are in English.

I've found hundreds of Harlequin novels turned manga too. ^^;; I stalk scanlator groups.
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Re: Non-Japanese comics

#23 Post by Fungii » Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:43 am

Blacksaaaaaad

That's pretty much it.

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Re: Non-Japanese comics

#24 Post by Daistarir » Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:45 pm

Vietnam's Genius is one of the Vietnam Comic.

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Re: Non-Japanese comics

#25 Post by cuttlefish » Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:51 am

junna wrote:
cuttlefish wrote:
junna wrote:I've been collecting graphic novels of Shakespeare's plays, teen novels like Maximum Ride and Twilight
Gosh, who makes those? I'm not sure I've run into any comics that were an adaptation of a novel or play.
Err...no idea who thought of it but they do... the Shakespeare graphic novel has a distinctively err...comic-book/Western style drawings whereas the novels like Twilight, Maximum Ride and Sherrilyn Kenyon's Dark Hunter series have a distinctively manga/manhwa style. The artist for the Maximum Ride grpahic novel even has a Korean-ish name. lol. All of them are in English.

I've found hundreds of Harlequin novels turned manga too. ^^;; I stalk scanlator groups.
...I kind of want to find those comics. (Well, Shakespeare and Dark Hunter.)

I realized a little after I initially replied that I do read a comic that's been adapted from a novel *coughmyavatarcough*, and I'm reading the original novel version too.
C7N wrote:I read The Friendly Winter, that's a really great manwha web comic about a girl with a growth disorder who becomes friends with a guy that has a mental disorder. It's not only about how they deal with their disabilities, but also about the girl's mother who abandoned her when she was really young. Full of drama, but pretty addictive.
I will be going through this for the next couple of days~
Fungii wrote:Blacksaaaaaad

That's pretty much it.
I'll be getting my hands on it soon +_+
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Re: Non-Japanese comics

#26 Post by Nuxill » Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:31 pm

Aww yeah, nice to see some fellow Gunnerkrigg and Cucumber Quest fans in here. B)
I also read Gunshow and Monster Pulse.

I have a hard time getting into comic series that are published monthly because I don't always have access to a good comic book store. Most of the stuff I own is smaller 'indie' comics that end in one volume... and bound versions of the webcomics I read. :lol:

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Re: Non-Japanese comics

#27 Post by junna » Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:38 pm

For Dark-Hunter, you could try and find it from your local chain bookstore...I found mine in my university bookstore. lol
here's a look at the Dark-Hunters in manga form. http://www.sherrilynkenyon.com/book-series/magna/

For the Shakespeare...I find there are several different ones. You would have to search for them first ^^;;
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Re: Non-Japanese comics

#28 Post by cuttlefish » Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:46 am

@Nuxill
You could probably find some of those monthly comics on the internet or at the library?
One day, I'll buy the printed volumes for some of the webcomics I read.

@junna
Oh. Thanks for the info. Why doesn't my university bookstore sell comics!? But then again, they'd be overpriced...



Wow. It's nice to learn about all the other comics out there.
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Re: Non-Japanese comics

#29 Post by Daistarir » Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:26 am

@cuttlefish : Phan Thi. But I don't think they will release the Eng version in a long time.

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Re: Non-Japanese comics

#30 Post by Victoria Jennings » Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:04 pm

Did anyone mention Promethea yet? I've only read the first volume, but I found it to be quite awesome. :'3 <3

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