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Strangest VN idea you've had the desire to make

#1 Post by Maelstrom-Fenrir » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:18 am

This is something I'm curious about since I tend to love the unusual ideas or different ones. And since my ideas can descend into crazy land if I'm not careful (or when I'm just fooling around) I began wondering what ideas others have had that while strange or even outright crazy, you either feel or at one point felt that you really wanted to make them.

My strangest idea's (or at least one of them) weirdness doesn't stem from its plot (It is pretty well together in that area) but of its mix of two gameplay styles.

I'm talking about a VN/Platformer. :lol: Yep I'm totally serious here, long VN segments and deep story to accompany simple platforming and boss fights. Multiple routes, endings, etc all the stuff you normally find in VNs, but with more gameplay and action packed boss fights.

For some reason I just love the idea (might be one of the only people who does) Someday I totally want to make it.

So everyone, what are some of your strange ideas you've wanted to show the world?

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#2 Post by Greeny » Mon Dec 17, 2012 8:26 am

I seem to have this inexplicable desire to mess with reader expectation in cruel and unusual ways. Like marketing a story as happy GxG fluff and then bombarding the unsuspecting reader with a dark and tracic story that raises deep moral questions about sexism. I have some other ideas but I might yet put them to use.
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#3 Post by mirelle » Mon Dec 17, 2012 8:37 am

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Re: Strangest VN idea you've had the desire to make

#4 Post by mugenjohncel » Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:12 am

This is easy... a VN where I Uncle Mugen is fully glorified... my idea is basically to create a sort of cross between Larry and Batman games but with Uncle Mugen... So the idea is everyday or every chapter there will be a different story with a different girl with unique sort of problems and Uncle Mugen pops up to save the day... in any way possible and have the girl develop feelings for Uncle Mugen and at the end will be this dramatic scene rivaling Kanon or Air or Angel Beats while an equally emotional tune plays in the background with Uncle Mugen in a really memorable and dynamic pose saying farewell and I Uncle Mugen will "POOF" (Disappears) as the girl will look up to the sky and see a smiling face of me at 50% opacity...

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This will surely be a hit I swear!... Even when I'm long gone and no longer in this world... this VN will surely stay alive in people's HD with Uncle Mugen eagerly awaiting the next time you decided to give my game a spin...

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#5 Post by SusanTheCat » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:17 pm

Maelstrom-Fenrir wrote:I'm talking about a VN/Platformer. :lol: Yep I'm totally serious here, long VN segments and deep story to accompany simple platforming and boss fights. Multiple routes, endings, etc all the stuff you normally find in VNs, but with more gameplay and action packed boss fights.
I actually love this idea. I did a Ludum Dare entry doing it: http://lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewto ... 16&t=13079 (Play it at your own risk ;) I made it in 96 hours with the help of my son and his friends. The art will make your eyes bleed!) It is on my list of games to polish up next year.

So far my weirdest ideas are:
- Christian Hidden Object game using Ren'Py
- Dot-to-Dot VN mashup in Ren'Py (Got the code already, just need the story!)

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#6 Post by TrickWithAKnife » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:26 pm

I'm the original source of weird ideas. Anyone who has seen a decent number of my posts has surely stumbled upon some examples. Sometimes they actually work out fair well too, like the Renpy Cookbook part of the forum, and The Worst VN Ever, but the majority don't turn into anything.

Anyway, regarding actual VNs, I decided to make a VN that teaches a language. Not a whole language, of course, but (hopefully) enough that a person could stay in Japan and communicate without too many hassles.
Lofty goal? Sure, I love 'em!
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#7 Post by Greeny » Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:37 pm

mugenjohncel wrote:This is easy... a VN where I Uncle Mugen is fully glorified...
You've made a VN where you're not fully glorified?
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#8 Post by mugenjohncel » Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:37 pm

Greeny wrote:You've made a VN where you're not fully glorified?
Excluding remakes of other people's works (with permission of course) or collaborations with other groups or people... oh my... I just realized something...

Every single game I made by myself had Uncle Mugen in it... I seriously would love to write a story... it doesn't have to be the next Twilight or 50 shades of Grayscale... just a typical BxG game featuring the stereotypical male protagonist supported by money from parents that is always never around while attending... school :mrgreen:

Yes true, I can spice things up like add a gigantic tentacle monster then a 50ft salaryman appears out of nowhere to battle the gigantic tentacle monster or just use a random scene generator but I know sooner or later I'll end up self inserting myself (again) in anything I write...

Sure I could just team up with a writer but none of the current writers who posted their stories or plots in WIP stirs my interests... I love School themed stories, I love BxG, I love GxB, I love GxG... even BxB to some degree but I also Love me... Uncle Mugen... I love myself to the point that I wanted to ensure that when I'm gone for good when my body finally calls it quits... I'll still be able to exist in one form or another either as a character in a story or even a cameo. It doesn't really matter if I end up as a protagonist or antagonist or even comedic relief as long as someone out there a hundred years or even thousand years from now will stumble on my works or derivatives of my work and maybe provide a few minutes of diversion or even enjoyment but as long as my message is transmitted clearly... that there used to be a person called Uncle Mugen and I was here... I'll be more than happy... Sure, I can chip my name and message in stone and toss it into the ocean and hope that it will be buried by sediment and discovered by future archaeologists but I'd rather focus on what I do best within reasonable amount of effort and that is creating OELVN's

Now I also think about it...

Though there is one project that I really love that doesn't involve self inserting myself as Uncle Mugen and that is Sepia Tears but what really turns me off to the point that I cringe every time I think about it is snow... no matter how good I am... I just can't bring myself to draw snow... not because I can't but I hate it for some odd reason... seriously, Sepia Tears could have been finished long ago if it didn't had snow in it...

And now I noticed that the topic is slightly going off because of my rant so back to topic... :mrgreen:

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#9 Post by KimiYoriBaka » Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:29 pm

let's see, I probably have had a lot since I tend to get random ideas all the time. the strangest ones I can remember are:

a story about a group of people suddenly getting trapped in a vn of unknown genre and being forced to do strange things at the will of some otherworldly entity known as the "player".

a BxG story about a guy deciding to stalk the girl he likes only to find out that she's been spying on him as a way of playing "secret agent." (probably a comedy)

a very plain unoriginal high school romance that gets interrupted right at the kissing scene by the "director" complaining to the "writer" about how boring the story is. the "director" then starts throwing out suggestions for making the story more interesting, such as a random alien invasion.

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#10 Post by Carassaurat » Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:51 pm

My strangest idea so far has probably been Charles the Bold, duke of Burgundy: the musical. I'll allow your imagination to fill in the gaps.

For what it's worth, it would have been historically accurate, as duke Charles really did love to sing, despite being notoriously bad at it.

This likely wouldn't have made a gem of a VN either.

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#11 Post by Destiny » Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:57 pm

I once thought about a VN where one plays as a tomato, trying to break free from the freezer in an attempt to survive dinner.
But corn and the onion brothers thought the humans are god and created a sect which glorified the group suicide by gladly being cut open and fried.

I don't even...
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#12 Post by Greeny » Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:36 pm

mugenjohncel wrote:yada yada long post
The best way to be remembered is not by putting yourself in your VN - it's by making your VN such that people will want to know who made it.
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#13 Post by feathersnake » Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:55 pm

Recently a friend and I were talking about making a VN with strange stats to increase through choices. Like a handsomeness or bishie meter that actually changes the character's appearance in that way as they increase.
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#14 Post by mugenjohncel » Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:33 pm

Greeny wrote:The best way to be remembered is not by putting yourself in your VN - it's by making your VN such that people will want to know who made it.
Normally that would be the case but then again I'm not asking for monetary gain for my work so the only reward I get from all of this is personal satisfaction and the remote chance of cementing my legacy and place in history...

While I could cater to what people wanted and create a work specifically targeting their taste, chances are it will be something I don't like so no personal satisfaction there, even if people love it.

So my long term plan is to stick to my original long term plan and create games where I self insert myself... personal satisfaction and cross my finger someone out there will like my work enough to give it a few minutes of their time... it's a long shot but this is the best option I have so far... :wink:

Of course, If there is a better option out there or an original project that will mutually benefit me and the other party then I'm more than willing to collaborate with others as long as the story or plot of the work is something within my alley and taste... :)

But yes... I'm beginning to sense some people are getting a little bit pissed seeing my smiling self insert character in nearly all of my works... This is why I'm sticking to contributing to small projects or doing OELVN remakes of other people's OELVN projects for Non-Uncle Mugen OELVN's with already good story or good plot (with permission of course)... I have no choice... besides Uncle Mugen stories, I cannot write very good story...

As people say... "When Life gives you Lemons, you take it... and make Batteries out of it and use it later to make Delicious Lemonade..." :D

OK Back to topic... :)

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#15 Post by Blue Lemma » Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:59 am

@mugen: Your in-game character is amusing and strange, just like your games, so it makes sense to me. I mean, no one plays a mugen game expecting a serious "conventional" story, and you don't intend it that way.

I tend to keep my strange VN ideas that I have any desire to make to myself so that no one can steal them :wink: and then they never get made ;_;
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