Falles!!!

[Laveil Kurtis]

Ok, maybe was Godoy's fault, but Carlos IV still was very stupid. You only have to see one of the portraits Goya painted of him to know it Laughing . Napoleon despised him and all the Spanish royal family (and history has proved that he had good reasons to do so).

Yeah, you're right.

It's not strange that Goya was one of the "afrancesados" (people who wanted a french turn in the Spanish polithics), it would have been funny to know what Goya was thinking when the king was posing for him (but maybe the portrait it's worth a thousand words Laughing ).

Not only Goya, but almost every spanish intellectuals are "afrancesados" too. And if I were living during that period, I'll be one too. José Bonaparte wanted to improve the situation on Spain, which was incredibly underdeveloped. But people hated him because he was french (even they nicknamed Pepe Botella to him) But if people knew what Fernando VII was planning, they will probably praised José.

And maybe they were not in a jail, but I'm sure Carlos IV must have been desolated in France. Probably thinking every day about what went wrong and why they were not governing anymore

Not really. It was more "I'll give you palace, money and servants and you'll give me your country" and they accepted. It was a life with everything they wanted and no responsibility at all. I don't know if there was any moment that he was thinking that. But well, it's his fault to trust the Queen's lover (Godoy was the Queen's lover for those who didn't know)

And in other news, Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.

That reminds me of one joke about Franco reviving and asking a guard who was ruling in Spain. Maybe mokenju1 knows what I'm talking about. Funny if you know about spanish polithics until the socialists won.

[mokenju1]

[quote="Laveil KurtisThat reminds me of one joke about Franco reviving and asking a guard who was ruling in Spain. Maybe mokenju1 knows what I'm talking about. Funny if you know about spanish polithics until the socialists won.[/quote]

Hmmm... I don't remember that joke. But I have the feeling that maybe is similar to that great tv commercial with the old sheperd in the middle of nowhere asking "And the Madrid... has again won the Champion's league?"

[PyTom]

IIRC, "And in other news, Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead." was a joke from Saturday Night Live's weekend update segment. For those who don't know, SNL is a comedy program, and weekend update is its news segment, where they make jokes about the news. They'll be reading some news, and then they'll break in with the bit about Franco.

[Laveil Kurtis]

Hmmm... I don't remember that joke. But I have the feeling that maybe is similar to that great tv commercial with the old sheperd in the middle of nowhere asking "And the Madrid... has again won the Champion's league?"

This joke (spanish)
http://bepop.com.ar/chistes/cuentos259b.html

IIRC, "And in other news, Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead." was a joke from Saturday Night Live's weekend update segment. For those who don't know, SNL is a comedy program, and weekend update is its news segment, where they make jokes about the news. They'll be reading some news, and then they'll break in with the bit about Franco.

Lol XD I didn't know that

[mokenju1]

That joke is great (and the bit about Gallardon is my favourite part of it ).

I knew the Saturday's Live show (not like I have actually seen it though...). I'm a little perplexed that they make that kind of joke with his name (that implies that USA citizens know who Franco was ). I would find it unsurprising if it was Hitler or Mussolini, but Franco...

And there is a comic radio show called "Gomaespuma" when they use a similar pun. When they talk with somebody that's going to visit Barcelona, they always say: "I'm afraid you are going to find that works are undertaken within the Sagrada Familia". (Gaudi's "Sagrada Familia" temple is still under construction since it was started in 1882)

[PyTom]

I knew the Saturday's Live show (not like I have actually seen it though...). I'm a little perplexed that they make that kind of joke with his name (that implies that USA citizens know who Franco was ).

There's a wikipedia article about the joke:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generaliss ... still_dead

This was from the first season of SNL, which was 1975, and so I think most people probably knew who he was back then, at least with the same sort of vague knowledge Americans have about world leaders that are not in charge of the UK, the USSR, or New York City.

I think it's also that they treated "Generalissimo" as a comedy word. It has a certain over-the-topness to it that makes good for the punchline of a joke.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_Hitler#Gay_Hitler

Hitler was dealt with much later, as "Gay Hitler".

[mokenju1]

The funny thing is that we still don't know when he actually died. They announced it only when they thought it was the moment to say so .

The american Wikipedia is surprinsingly open to t.v. contents. In the Spanish Wikipedia they wanted to restrict the information about the reality show Big Brother to a single mention, and that bearing in mind that its first edition was a mass phenomenon. And you have an article only to explain a catching phrase . I prefer the English wikipedia in that sense, there's no information which is useless information. All the things that I have learned watching the Simpsons are going to be extremely useful for me one day or another.

And that picture of Gay Hitler reminds me to "The Producers" musical .

BTW I should make a correction in the Drunk Girl "profile". "Como te llama" that in that context would probably correctly spelled "Como te llamas?" means "What's your name?" and not "Hello". I understand that they feature the expression as a Spanish picking line, but...