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A question
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 12:35 pm
by Chanda
So, this is just a big thing that has been bothering me about a game I have been working on that I don't know if I should follow through or not. I've asked a friend about it and she has given me her opinion, but just one opinion doesn't help much, so I would like more please! I have given as much background on the character as I can at this time.
https://forms.gle/boVvYL8MV5JJG189A
Re: A question
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:13 pm
by GNVE
Sorry not interested in giving up my mail adres in a poll. So I'll give the answer to your question here. With an 800 year gap say 30 generations or so there isn't very much familial relationship anymore. I think that if you go back that far in a family tree you just end up being 'related' to
millions of people or even
half the continent.
Don't let that ruin the fun though. It was just where my mind went to when I read the premise.
Re: A question
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:56 pm
by Chanda
GNVE wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:13 pm
Sorry not interested in giving up my mail adres in a poll. So I'll give the answer to your question here. With an 800 year gap say 30 generations or so there isn't very much familial relationship anymore. I think that if you go back that far in a family tree you just end up being 'related' to
millions of people or even
half the continent.
Don't let that ruin the fun though. It was just where my mind went to when I read the premise.
Thank you for the response! I really appreciate your honesty. I'll take a look at your articles after my classes!
Re: A question
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:10 am
by LiamWinterdale
spowers161 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:56 pm
GNVE wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:13 pm
Sorry not interested in giving up my mail adres in a poll. So I'll give the answer to your question here. With an 800 year gap say 30 generations or so there isn't very much familial relationship anymore. I think that if you go back that far in a family tree you just end up being 'related' to
millions of people or even
half the continent.
Don't let that ruin the fun though. It was just where my mind went to when I read the premise.
Thank you for the response! I really appreciate your honesty. I'll take a look at your articles after my classes!
I agree with GNVE. I don't think it's really incest when they're centuries apart. Some people might still be iffy about it though, but personally and technically? Not incest, so I don't mind a main route for him ^^
Maybe you can touch this subject in game as well so people would understand? Either way, I wish you all the best with your project! ^w^)/
Re: A question
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 4:27 pm
by Elsa Kisiel
GNVE wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:13 pm
Sorry not interested in giving up my mail adres in a poll.
Me neither, to be honest. u.u I already receive way too much spam in my inbox.
(I still answered it, with a fake e-mail adress)
GNVE wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:13 pm
With an 800 year gap say 30 generations or so there isn't very much familial relationship anymore. I think that if you go back that far in a family tree you just end up being 'related' to millions of people or even half the continent.
Exactly!
Re: A question
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:38 pm
by Zelan
Also not willing to give out my email address, and not sure why you requested it for the survey.
Anyway, my answer would be no. I don't see any reason to make family members a route when you could just as easily either change the story so that they are not related, or even not mention it, or make a character with a similar personality so that people who like characters like him can have a fun route. Explicitly making it clear that two characters are related, even if it's so far apart, and then allowing the option to have them as a couple is very squicky for me.
Re: A question
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:35 pm
by Mutive
The rate of higher genetic defects even between first cousins is only 4-7% (vs. 3-4% for unrelated parents - so roughly double) and first cousin marriage has been common in a number of civilizations. By the time you get to second cousins (so shared great-grandparents vs. grandparents), the rate only goes up to 3.5%. By third cousins, I don't know that a higher rate is even detectable, unless you end up in a case where third cousins are regularly marrying (and thus increasing the chances for potentially hazardous genes to become common within the population).
And as noted above, by 30 generations, EVERYONE is related to everyone else. (Fun fact: I recently found that a friend was a fifth cousin - which seems kind of crazy until you realize we come from similar ethnic backgrounds and that - by seven generations out - I'm probably related to practically everyone who comes from similar parts of the world. But sleeping with him would in no way be "incest" because from any realistic perspective, we're no more closely related than I am to anyone else.)
Re: A question
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 4:50 pm
by LiamWinterdale
Mutive wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:35 pm
The rate of higher genetic defects even between first cousins is only 4-7% (vs. 3-4% for unrelated parents - so roughly double) and first cousin marriage has been common in a number of civilizations. By the time you get to second cousins (so shared great-grandparents vs. grandparents), the rate only goes up to 3.5%. By third cousins, I don't know that a higher rate is even detectable, unless you end up in a case where third cousins are regularly marrying (and thus increasing the chances for potentially hazardous genes to become common within the population).
And as noted above, by 30 generations, EVERYONE is related to everyone else. (Fun fact: I recently found that a friend was a fifth cousin - which seems kind of crazy until you realize we come from similar ethnic backgrounds and that - by seven generations out - I'm probably related to practically everyone who comes from similar parts of the world. But sleeping with him would in no way be "incest" because from any realistic perspective, we're no more closely related than I am to anyone else.)
Exactly xD