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First VN!

#1 Post by brightstar2011 » Fri Feb 20, 2015 11:20 pm

Hello! I'm going to be creating my first visual novel! Yaaaaaay! :D

As I'm in my last year of college, I'm planning on making this my final project. That means I have to do pretty much everything myself. Bloo. :shock: But no worries, here's my plot idea so far:


Celia (MC) is trying to communicate and understand her sister (Hanna), who suffers from borderline personality disorder (BPD). In order to kind-of "find her sister", Celia travels through worlds (or hallucinations) and encounters various characters that represent specific emotional states or vital characteristics of her sister's personality. Since I'm not a big artist, I'm going to experiment with paper cutting and then layer the cuts over black/white/grey/red paper.


Obviously this isn't your traditional visual novel, but oh well!
Any suggestions? Advice is definitely welcome.


FYI: Borderline personality disorder (BPD) is a mental disorder that is characterized with multifaceted emotional spikes, disturbed cognition (like hallucinations), and impulsive behavior. More info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borderline ... y_disorder

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#2 Post by SuperLexxx » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:25 am

As someone who is also making visuals novels for a school project, I say good luck! (Glad to know I'm not alone, haha.) I think you have an interesting concept and an interesting idea for the art. I for one am very curious to see how these paper cutouts would look. :) I'm new to Ren'py so I can't offer much advice, but again, good luck to ya!

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#3 Post by LaziRice » Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:06 am

I think it is a great idea! There is an episode from the show "Teen Titans" that plays with a similar idea (two characters travel through a mind and encounter the variety of emotions, I believe it's called "Nevermore" if you want to watch it). As far as suggestions go does these interactions with the worlds directly affect hanna? Would say accidentally ruining one world ruin one emotional state of hanna? Or even helping the world means helping hanna? I am not too familiar with Ren'Py but I wish you good luck!

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#4 Post by OwlFeather » Sat Feb 21, 2015 7:32 am

I wish you good luck as well! The concept seems like something that would come out of a dream. Where reality is morphed ^^". Along with SuperLexxx I'm excited to see the results of your paper cutout characters. Keep the ideas flowing :D

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#5 Post by Mad Harlequin » Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:34 pm

As others have mentioned, the paper cutting idea sounds great! Be sure to do extensive research on how BPD affects people to ensure you avoid stereotyping, though (I'd consult firsthand accounts).

I'm excited to see where this goes.
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#6 Post by Visualator » Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:38 pm

This sounds really creative. Coming from someone who struggles with BPD, one of the most frustrating things about the disorder is somebody close not being able to understand you. This sounds like a very touching story of a sister discovering the world that her sister lives in.

Harlequin mentioned you should consult Firsthand accounts. However, I doubt that you don't already have somebody in your life that struggles with this. Feel free to pm me with any concerns though.

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#7 Post by brightstar2011 » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:00 pm

Thanks for all the feedback guys! It's helped immensely!

As for an update, I've just been doing more research on BPD. I have about 3 worlds down and planned out, just need to pin down about 2 more and then I can go ahead and start writing. Yay!

Visualator wrote:This sounds really creative. Coming from someone who struggles with BPD, one of the most frustrating things about the disorder is somebody close not being able to understand you. This sounds like a very touching story of a sister discovering the world that her sister lives in.

Harlequin mentioned you should consult Firsthand accounts. However, I doubt that you don't already have somebody in your life that struggles with this. Feel free to pm me with any concerns though.
I might take you up on that. My own sister has BPD and I'll be asking her a ton of stuff, but I also want more perspectives. I'm a little concerned about the "worlds". I was thinking about having these be pretty dream-like (fantasy-like), but I think that kind of plays into the stereotypical idea of what hallucinations are like. I'm not completely sure though. Do you think it'd be disrespectful to have these worlds?

Sorry to put you on the spot. :P It's just something that's been on my mind.

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#8 Post by Visualator » Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:37 am

brightstar2011 wrote: I might take you up on that. My own sister has BPD and I'll be asking her a ton of stuff, but I also want more perspectives. I'm a little concerned about the "worlds". I was thinking about having these be pretty dream-like (fantasy-like), but I think that kind of plays into the stereotypical idea of what hallucinations are like. I'm not completely sure though. Do you think it'd be disrespectful to have these worlds?

Sorry to put you on the spot. :P It's just something that's been on my mind.
The worlds idea is fine. You might want to make sure that this is okay with anybody close to you struggling with mental disorders. This could come across as not caring about them which could cause anger or suicidal tendencies. In a general sense, an interactive entertainment confronting BPD should be helpful towards eliminating the stigma.

I'm not sure how much you have researched Borderline Personality Disorder, but the name doesn't describe it properly. There are a few stigmas and ideas I can write down that might help you with your project. The only thing I ask in return is the pleasure of playing it when you are complete.

Dissociate which can be described as zoning out. This can be the mind blocking out a painful event. A common example would be sexual abuse. (Dissociate World where you brought up a painful topic.) This world could be blank and even be your first world because this commonly involves a detachment from reality. Remember that these problems can be worked through.

Impulsiveness, spending sprees, alcohol abuse, eating disorders, sex, and running away. When it comes to writing impulsiveness has a lot of material to work with. I will separate these.
1. Eating disorders commonly have a root with this disorder. Neglect from a caregiver, which might cause later problems and have them manipulate others to feed them so they feel important enough to live. This is very problematic, I got over this by my boyfriend teaching me how to cook in a private environment. Even though I already knew how to cook. So you could spend quality time with your sister with nobody else in the dream. Teaching her how to cook.
2. Spending sprees this is hard since sisters kind of go shopping to bond. Just keep the purchases at a minimum.
3. Sex sometimes becomes uncontrollable, which to the person with BPD can be fun. Lovers though can experience distress and can set (difficult, not impossible)rules to seem affectionate, but overwhelmed.
4. Running away, people with BPD often feel shame and guilt after running away.

Self-harm, "18% of men diagnosed with BPD commit suicide" luckily girls are down to 8%. Maybe you should stay away from this subject. Groundbreaking if you do it right. Just matters what kind of a writer you want to be.

Intimacy, people with BPD strongly desire intimacy or even if I dare say have stronger feelings of love. This world could be a craving for somebody to connect with and finally connecting with her loving sister. So cute, I hope you use this idea, it makes me wish I had a sister like you growing up to help me.




Okay, I'm exhausted, hope this helps. What are the worlds that you have?

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#9 Post by octacon100 » Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:36 am

Sounds like a great idea, good luck, and I'm glad you're reaching out to people to get their experiences.
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#10 Post by steve_T » Wed Mar 18, 2015 6:12 pm

Paper cutting sounds so cool keep us updated

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