Need Advice on Killing a Character.

[dramspringfeald]

So, I'm going to kill of a character in a VERY aggressive twist. How would one go about doing that?

It involve Murdering a child, in cold blood to show a characters true turn to the dark side. I've had it planned for about 2 years I'm just not sure how to use it.

[specialtantei]

Is the character who is goning to be killed a child, or the one who kills the child? I have a pretty gory mind so I might help. It depends on the situation though.

[dramspringfeald]

Is the character who is goning to be killed a child, or the one who kills the child? I have a pretty gory mind so I might help. It depends on the situation though.

The child gets killed and simply tossed out the back of a fleeing space shuttle. The One who does the killing "scrambles" to catch her screaming she got hit but wasn't fast enough to to save her. The death itself is not too graphic in the gore sense but watching a small body drop a few hundred feet and 'bounce' would qualify.

Just not sure if it would turn the players against me or drive home just how evil the character really is.

*back ground on the child She was rescued by the "bad guy" and turned into a very willing spy, who also blackmailed the other one to also be his spy.

[AshenhartKrie]

Well... I think it would be interesting. I've read a few books in which innocent characters are killed. I don't think it would turn people against you - it's part of the plot after all.

[wakagana]

Here are some various ideas

[AshenhartKrie]

I seriously love that scene from the Princess Bride.

[wakagana]

I seriously love that scene from the Princess Bride.

WAHWAWAHWHAWHAHAHAWHAWEHAWEHAWH- x.x

[Applegate]

So, I'm going to kill of a character in a VERY aggressive twist. How would one go about doing that?

It involve Murdering a child, in cold blood to show a characters true turn to the dark side. I've had it planned for about 2 years I'm just not sure how to use it.

If you've planned it for 2 years and you still haven't figured out how to use it, it may be an indication that it's a bad idea. Are there other ideas to show off just how evil this guy is?

[specialtantei]

Oh, I get it, so the One fakes saving the child. Hmmm. Let me think. I don't exactly know the story, but I would do it like this:

The child trusts the One, and would be able to to anything for him/her, because she doesn't know the One's true nature. The One fakes hearing a strange sound outside, and asks the girl to go and check if everything is alright with the shuttle. She puts her helmet on (I guess she's in a spacesuit?), attaches the cable and goes out. While she's looking for what might be wrong, the One detaches the cable. It takes the child some moments to realise she wasn't united with the shuttle anymore, and to start screaming for help in the microphone. The evil one closes the door of the shuttle slowly, while watching her drift into oblivion, with an evil smile of anticipation on her face, knowing the child is going to die a horrible death. It could end with the child muttering a 'How could you' at the same time the One shuts off her mic and the door closes. The last thing we see of the girl is her hand reaching out, as pleading for help.

Cliché but effective. At least that's what I think .

[dramspringfeald]

So, I'm going to kill of a character in a VERY aggressive twist. How would one go about doing that?

It involve Murdering a child, in cold blood to show a characters true turn to the dark side. I've had it planned for about 2 years I'm just not sure how to use it.

If you've planned it for 2 years and you still haven't figured out how to use it, it may be an indication that it's a bad idea. Are there other ideas to show off just how evil this guy is?

Well the 2 years thing is more when I Came up with the idea. I just never got around to fleshing it out.

[Applegate]

So, I'm going to kill of a character in a VERY aggressive twist. How would one go about doing that?

It involve Murdering a child, in cold blood to show a characters true turn to the dark side. I've had it planned for about 2 years I'm just not sure how to use it.

If you've planned it for 2 years and you still haven't figured out how to use it, it may be an indication that it's a bad idea. Are there other ideas to show off just how evil this guy is?

Well the 2 years thing is more when I Came up with the idea. I just never got around to fleshing it out.

All right, let's work with that then. What is the purpose of the scene beyond showing just how gruelly evil the bloke is? Any scene must advance character or plot, and showing a particular aspect of personality is, of course, no advancement. How will this scene move the plot or character(s)? Where should it take place, and how important is it that the reader is keenly aware of the actual events taking place?

In Breath of Fire IV, there's a scene where one guy brutally murders a bunch of children. All you see is one of the kids stumbling out of the ruins, then falling dead in front of the party. It's still strong enough to show just how much of a bastard that guy is and how much he deserves the furious fist of a dragon god descending on him like it was Zeus. My point is, it's okay if you want to do it, but consider how much you need to show to bring the point across and try to work it into a scene that also moves the plot and/or characters. Before any of us can give advice, we need to know more about the context of the scene: What happens immediately before it and what happens after?

[dramspringfeald]

During a major battle near the end the "heros" need to leave because they are about to get zerg rushed. They send the fastest AND smallest of the crew to go get "Female Spy" who is seen making a literal deal with Dram. While fleeing "Female Spy" figures out the girl was listening in. While Fleeing they get on the ship last. Just as they are headed up and the doors are closing "Female Spy" Takes kids knife and puts it in her chest then "lets her slip out" just as the doors are closing and locking. The cat girl falling hundreds of feet and 'bounces.' Dram rushes to save her because after using her as a Spy he's grown attached to her and uses BS Healing device bringing her back so that they can sneak aboard the ship later. So that he can kill two of the Main cast leaving it up to the player to save one... because kid is aboard the ship with the same healing device causing the ship to chase him to the end game battle.

The Kid shows up Looking "Female Spy" in the eyes and flat out forgives her.

The whole point is to drive the plot right into the end game leading to the MacGuffin that will let him go home.

THIS is the least depression thing I'll have in the game. I'm Not sure how it will effect the 'fan base' when it happens. Guess we could call it newbie nerves or something.

As for BoF-IV they weren't really kids they were 'elf-ish' people who from being so close to the magic force stopped aging and stayed 'young.' Still Rasso was just a bitch and had it coming.

(Learned if you Google Zerg Rush Google Rushes your search results..... No really. Google it. Zerg Rush )
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ZergRush

[Sexo Grammaticus]

I think the first thing you need to do is go back and actually name your characters, rather than just continue to use placeholders. It doesn't bode well that you've supposedly been thinking about this project for a couple years now and haven't got names for some apparently major characters, or can't describe what happens without linking to TVTropes. It all sounds like you've just kinda held onto these ideas for too long without seeing them as parts of a larger whole, and you're struggling to reconcile your investment in these scenes with the need to tell a plausible, coherent story.

Don't forget that no-one ever sees themselves as the bad guy. There has to be a reason behind what they do and it has to be more than 'ha ha ha mine is an evil laugh!'.

[dramspringfeald]

I think the first thing you need to do is go back and actually name your characters, rather than just continue to use placeholders. It doesn't bode well that you've supposedly been thinking about this project for a couple years now and haven't got names for some apparently major characters, or can't describe what happens without linking to TVTropes. It all sounds like you've just kinda held onto these ideas for too long without seeing them as parts of a larger whole, and you're struggling to reconcile your investment in these scenes with the need to tell a plausible, coherent story.

Don't forget that no-one ever sees themselves as the bad guy. There has to be a reason behind what they do and it has to be more than 'ha ha ha mine is an evil laugh!'.

The last 2 years it was going to be a web comic but this seemed more fun. All but the Main PC have been named. I have the Names for the Major characters but this is supposed to be happening just before the final dash for the end game. The only "Bad guy" I can name 'publicly' is Dram and that's because he's being driven insane from the effects of having his mind jiggled with wire then the entirety of space trying to kill him.

Drams only purpose is to get all of space into one area and also destroy the Echo Crew... namely Drake. Which'll be explained in the major scene AFTER this one. So he takes the "Evil" path because it's more efficient.

I'm giving "Female spy" the Anakin to Darth treatment and seeing how her psyche will hold up.

The Tropes are just quicker. Did you know there are those who do not know what a Zerg Rush even is? Also mentioning Outright some of the major things will spoil major parts of the game. Take "MacGuffin" had I said "Magic Space watch" you would know it the moment you saw it in game. However simply using the 'troperiffic' generic version of that it will be lets the reader know that there will be something of importance in the story but not what it is. It's no different of saying a character drank soda. *It will most definitely NOT be a "Magic Space Watch," no really that was just an example.

Anyway I was seeing if killing a child in cold blood would be a bad move or not and I'm comfortable with going on ahead with it.