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Re: Ideas Dump

#1516 Post by gekiganwing » Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:20 pm

"The protagonist is one part of an action team." They don't have to create or lead it. Instead, they can just be part of a group of heroic people who are proactive and capable. They get to be a part of a story which focuses on things I've liked in fiction for many years: external conflict, exploration, battles, and so on. Here are a couple examples of how this could work...

* Protag is a thief in a low fantasy genre adventurer group. They have to be subtle about their intentions, and they need dexterity in order to survive traps.
* Protag is the medic on a modern day team. They need survival and teamwork skills.
* Protag is a brave member of a paranormal investigation squad. They might not like facing the unknown, but they can outwit / defeat foes. (The first things can come to mind are the Scooby-Doo team and the '80s Ghostbusters.)

An interesting angle for an otome game: "The protagonist starts as the first girl of a male action team, and then avoids becoming a territorial smurfette." At some point in the story, another girl joins the group. However, the protag decides not to become jealous or hostile of her. She believes that the group will survive if they can be friends, or perhaps friendly rivals.

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#1517 Post by Harick » Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:36 pm

I just had the worst idea for a dating sim. Baically it's a gay dating sim, set in the 80s, steeped in 80s nostalgia. But the twist is that the AIDS epidemic starts at the same time so like almost all of your romance options die a slow painful death. The only way to make this idea not horrible is to make it educational about that period, with how people treated gay people bacuse of it and showing just how huge it was and stuff.

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Re: Ideas Dump

#1518 Post by ScarletKnives » Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:27 am

A idea I have but Im too lazy to create it:

Basically its a conflict between 2 time-traveler teams. First one prevents the time from being altered and believes what will happen is bound to happen. The second group (and the one with the protagonists) are committed to change certain events from the story so great tragedies and wars would be avoided. The first part of the story will narrate that conflict... however, a bigger menace appears and both sides needs to join to defend time (time-eaters? I don't really know)

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Re: Ideas Dump

#1519 Post by puffinlady » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:07 am

All of the ideas I have that don't even see a game design document are usually the same thing rehashed over and over:

1. You are a girl who dates cute girls who all represent different kinds of lolita fashion
2. You are a girl who dates cute girls who are all based off of important philosophers
3. You are a girl who dates cute girls who all represent different genres of fiction

And on and on like that.
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Re: Ideas Dump

#1520 Post by gekiganwing » Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:50 am

"What's it like to go on a date?" Write about characters going out together. Tell a story about their experiences during a single day, or just a handful of dates. Where do they go, and what do they think about their interaction? This story can include conflict, humor, fantastic elements, or anything else you consider relevant.

"Is stat-building beneficial?" Give the protagonist at least a few statistics (intelligence, art, strength, social skills...) and then let the player shape the protag through stat-building. This will determine what sort of person the protagonist will be. Now... is this a good thing? Maybe it is, if the protag is using their time to become a more complete, refined person. Or maybe it isn't, if the protagonist *only* intends to attract a love interest by becoming smarter or more artistic.
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The only way to make this idea not horrible is to make it educational about that period, with how people treated gay people bacuse of it and showing just how huge it was and stuff.
I think it's good to consider whether your story stands on the "entertainment versus educational" spectrum. There are many published works of fiction which exist in the middle ground between escapist fun and a stark reflection on events. There are also many examples of stories which convey a message, while making the world relatively entertaining, and not downbeat all the time.

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Re: Ideas Dump

#1521 Post by FluffyCakeFactory » Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:27 pm

puffinlady wrote:
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2. You are a girl who dates cute girls who are all based off of important philosophers
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There's Asphyxia which kind of does this. In case you're interested in reading something like this :)

I came up with the following:
You befriend a classmate in college (or high school, or a co-worker) who is very nice and calm. The first time you go to their house you notice they are collecting a lot of dolls. They tell you they are making them themselves. It turns out they kill people to get their hair (and maybe clothes or eyelashes) to make the dolls. When they notice you know more than you should, they attempt to kill you too.
Maybe include some choices which lead to one of these endings: you ally with your friend, they get caught by the police, they kill you, you survive the attempted murder but they manage to flee.

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#1522 Post by gekiganwing » Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:53 pm

"The pressure's on now." Here are a couple visual novel ideas in which the protagonist has limited resources, or they have to act in a hurry.

* The characters are isolated in an emergency situation. But wait, they have mobile phones! However, their batteries are running low. They can only justify calling two or three times. Also, after a few hours, the batteries will run out of power.

* The protagonist has a supernatural power, but it has a major drawback. Such as a magician who can use a fireball spell, but it only works once per day. Their ability recharges after several hours of sleep.

* The antagonist knows what they're doing, and won't just wait for the heroes to show up. Like Ozymandias from Watchmen, they can say that their plan was activated thirty-five minutes ago, and they aren't bluffing.

* The protagonist has only a few hours or days in which they interact with people. For instance, they meet someone during a vacation or summer camp, and know that they'll part ways rather soon. Of course they can talk afterwards. However, they want to become friends with a person, and their time meeting face-to-face is limited.

* Reading about the recent OJLVN Making Lovers reminded me of things which I like. One of them is a male protagonist whose friends and family want him to find a significant other soon. Another thing which I don't often see in boy x girl stories is a short common route -- quickly transitioning from "several characters meeting each other" to "two characters committing to their relationship." (Incidentally, it sounds like this VN provides justifications for why the heroines are single.)
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The first time you go to their house you notice they are collecting a lot of dolls... It turns out they kill people to get their hair (and maybe clothes or eyelashes) to make the dolls.
One possibility: even though the dollmaker is doing horrible things, they have a motivation which makes sense. (They believe that magic will let them revive a dead family member, but they need fifty sacrifices.) When the protagonist learns about the dollmaker's motive, they can choose to side with them, or continue to oppose them.

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Re: Ideas Dump

#1523 Post by curry nochi rice » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:21 am

dating/management sim involving "instagram" models or youtubers or twitch streamers.
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#1524 Post by Chiagirl » Sat May 26, 2018 3:21 am

I've had an idea bouncing around where the MC wakes up in a hospital with amnesia only to be told they were the victim of an attempted murder; with the main three suspects being their spouse, their sibling, and their best friend. Throughout the game you try to figure out who was actually behind it, and watch your relationships with the aforementioned characters change based on what you perceive to be the truth. There would be different endings depending on which character you end up "remembering" tried to murder you, or if you "remember" at all, or bad ends if you end up getting killed for real this time. As well as your relationship with characters being drastically affected based on decisions and suspicions made. (Happily married or divorced? Are you close to or estranged from your sibling? Still best friends or are you now enemies?) After unlocking all of those you are unable to unlock the true end where you accurately remember everything this time. I have 2 ideas for how this could go, but I can't decide...Maybe do a good and bad true end, and let the player pick whichever ending they liked best?

The other idea I've had was a time travel fic where an agency goes to the past to recruit you to help catch a terrorist in the future...
that is actually your future self.
Of course you don't discover this until much later on accident when they "rescue" you after almost killing you in the first place. You're faced with your major path/branch point here of helping the "terrorist" or sticking with the organization; though it should be possible to get a couple bad endings before this point, and I've debated there being the potential to end up not discovering this altogether or not until it's "too late" depending on what options you pick. Based on your choices you can either get more bad endings, or 2 good endings for each route; a friendship or
family
ending for sticking with the terrorist, or a colleague or romance ending for sticking with the organization.

While I'd very much like to make these games myself one day, they both feel as though they're quite a big challenge for a first VN project, especially since I lack artistic skills and thus would have to hire everything out if I couldn't find free resources to fit with the overall theme. Though just so I have an idea of which one to start on first, which of the two do you guys find most interesting and why?

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#1525 Post by gekiganwing » Thu May 31, 2018 7:28 pm

"Can't load your previous save and reconsider a decision." When I finally tried a Telltale game earlier this year (six or seven years after hearing a ton of positive buzz...), this was the aspect that surprised me most. I'm used to loading save files in video games in order to retry stages or bosses or conversation questions. So I assume it was a deliberate design choice. I'm thinking about how this affects the reader. Some implications:

* The reader has to live with their decisions and move on. There's no going back.
* Most choices will make a small impact on the story.
* The reader can assume that they'll be warned if a decision will result in characters dying or the world ending.

I didn't get far enough into Minecraft Story Mode to know whether it has at least one negative ending which concludes a story. Likewise, I don't know if it includes at least one sudden Game Over style ending. I will think about resuming the story to see whether it includes these elements.
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The other idea I've had was a time travel fic where an agency goes to the past to recruit you to help catch a terrorist in the future...
The story concept makes me think "another remake of Total Recall." That is not a bad thing. The 1990 movie starts with a protagonist who doesn't know who he is. Then it brings up questions such as 'how much of a story is a dream, and how much actually happened?' as well as 'do you know who you are?' And it has plenty of external conflict.

Challenge #1: Time travel fiction is notoriously difficult to write. Even some of the best examples have logic problems.
Challenge #2: Total Recall was loosely based on a Philip K Dick short story. Then it had a remake in 2012.

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Re: Ideas Dump

#1526 Post by gas » Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:50 am

A dating sim where you need to AVOID fall in love with other people, but you had to interact with.
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#1527 Post by Czero » Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:13 pm

gas wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:50 am
A dating sim where you need to AVOID fall in love with other people, but you had to interact with.
Nice one lol
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