And so it begins... (dundundun)

[bookie]

I should be asleep right now, but instead I'm messing with this damn program. I knew I should have cleaned my room instead!

*ahem* anyway, I thought it would be a good idea to make a new thread for this project since it's sort of taking over Resources, and that way I can both jot down what I'm finding out and anyone else who's working on this thing can learn from each other. If this program's really fun I might write something formal up in HTML and upload it to my site, but since I'm a fickle person I thought something like this might be more useful for now.

Starting a New project - .... I don't know how. I tried desperately to make something new but it just didn't work, but there was some component that I was missing, so I couldn't do anything. T_T I'll have to do some strategic copy pasting from the demo to an empty folder to see if there's anything in particular the program's looking for.

So, instead of something new, I made a copy of the demo, opened it, and mutilated it.

The first thing you see when you open a project is Senario - School (シナリオ　－　学校） And a flowchart window called chart scene1(blah) (チャート　シン１（blah))

The chart is scary, so I'm just going to concentrate on the green scene window for now. XD

If you're using the demo game like I am the scene window should look like this.

For all inserted items, double click to change choices.
First item is obviously the background image.

Next is サウンド(??): Sound Effect.That effect is Gakko no Cyaimu. School Bells. I'll translate filenames later...maybe.

ウエイト: Wait time. The three variables are [amount of wait] [do clicks bypas] If the second value is 1, the user can click past wait time. If it's zero, user must wait.

Another Scene Change, More waiting, and then the dialauge appears.

After the emote graphic theres "message box (kanji)". This creates the message box it seems. I don't know what the variable alters though.

The next "sound" option I don't know either. Could be fade out.

"Wait 1000"

This サウンド(??) is the background music. The difference is in the options. The second option, effect(?) type ((??) タイプ) sets up whether or not effects repeat. Choose second option to repeat （リピート）, First option for a one time effect.

Now it's time to get cracking with the text! The program recognizes roman characters, thank god, so you English works!

I haven't figured out what option starts a new line, but I figured out a bunch of other stuff so I'll stop there. questions comment complements and complains are welcome.

[Megaman Z]

...and from google's translation I quote...

When we would like to start a new paragraph intend, using the entering [blue down arrow box] key, please insert. In addition, when the form feed we would like to do intend, while pushing the CTRL key, the entering key [page symbol] please insert pushing.

that should answer the new line thing
(I know it doesn't make a lot of sense from the grammatical errors, but right now, until WE (bookie, me, and anyone else contributing) get an english how-to up, your best is to do the same thing as me and try using google to translate the text, click on the fourth squared item (tutorials) on the left menu, work from there, and contribute to this effort.)

the first one to figure out exactly what is needed to start a new project and where to put it gets a cookie. a chocolate chip cookie(I got an I/O 123 error on the sample script... and some file is giving me an error or something when I hit F6 (which I assume is run game... it brings up the game window, after all... followed by some sort of debug window.). this is going to take a lot of effort)

[bookie]

Okay, that makes sense. If you enter you get a little blue arrow pointing down. This is like a carrage return. What I was looking for was the way to get the user to click to the new line, so I get ctrl+enter would do that. I'll test when I get back from school.

[PixelWrangler]

the first one to figure out exactly what is needed to start a new project and where to put it gets a cookie. a chocolate chip cookie(I got an I/O 123 error on the sample script... and some file is giving me an error or something when I hit F6 (which I assume is run game... it brings up the game window, after all... followed by some sort of debug window.). this is going to take a lot of effort)

Creating a new project (プロジェクトの準備)

First, create a folder for your project. (The folder can be anywhere, just remember where it is)

Once your folder is created, start LiveMaker.

ファイル --> プロジェクトの新規作成 (File --> Create New Project)

フォルダの参照 (Select Folder)
Select the folder you created for the project, then click OK

雛形の選択 (Select Style)
Select a style for the project, click OK

If successful, a 新規チャート (New Chart) tab is displayed in a chart window, with one 開始 (Start) in the tab.

Next, do the minimum setup for a project.

プロジェクト (Project) --> オプション (Option)
The option dialog will appear.

タイトル (Title) is displayed on the game window's title bar. Type in a name for your game.

識別コード (Identification Code)
A picture (icon?) cannot be displayed unless this is entered correctly. This code should be exactly the same as the code set up by the configuration of GraphicsGale.

That's all you need to do for now, so click OK.

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The preceding is taken from http://www.livemaker.net/pro/tutorial/tutorial02.html, a tutorial on the LiveMaker site. This and other tutorials can be viewed at http://www.livemaker.net/pro/tutorial/index.html.

The one element that is a bit enigmatic is the GraphicsGale code. GraphicsGale appears to be an icon-editing tool, so it may be neccessary to create an icon in GraphicsGale, then link to it in LiveMaker using the code given. However, not having used either of these progams, I can't say for certain. A link to GraphicsGale can be found from the LiveMaker site.

Hope this helps. Ganbatte!

P.W.

[bookie]

The problem I'm having is that there aren't any styles to choose from, I basically know how to start the thing otherwise. I'm going to try to steal the style from the demo game right now. XD

[Megaman Z]

now I know what the problem is... the same as bookie... here's your cookie, anyway.
*hands PixelWrangler a chocolate chip cookie 1 inch in diameter* (hey, I never said how big it was gonna be! )

[PixelWrangler]

The problem I'm having is that there aren't any styles to choose from, I basically know how to start the thing otherwise. I'm going to try to steal the style from the demo game right now. XD

Just a thought... this could somehow tie in with the GraphicsGale software... but once again, I really can't say for certain.

now I know what the problem is... the same as bookie... here's your cookie, anyway.
*hands PixelWrangler a chocolate chip cookie 1 inch in diameter* (hey, I never said how big it was gonna be! )

Nah, that's okay - you keep it. Helping is its own reward, and it has no calories!

Side note: for viewing the tutorials, try using http://www.eigo-navi.com. It can show the Japanese text and the English translation at the same time, making menus and such a lot easier to follow. Just enter the URL in the space provided, and select the second option (日本語＞英語) (Japanese > English).

Ganbatte!

P.W.

[bookie]

The bite sized ones are pretty good!

It's easier if you open the demo game and play with that anyway. You learn a lot more just by looking at how everything's been setup.

The Ctrl+enter worked!
Moving style files around didn't. X[

[Megaman Z]

PW>>no, I insist, take the cookie!

bookie>>I'm trying to get it to work... I'll look at it some more later... (waiting for my english teacher to update her grades, ****it! if it weren't for that, I'd be doing a heck of a lot more...) as far as the style files, I think the other download on the download page for the "usual edition" has something to do with it, but I can't really make heads or tails of it...

[bookie]

Mega, That second download did it. The ADV Type1 Download, installed into the LiveNovel folder extracts a folder with a whole bunch of files which seem to be what the program was looking for. Now I can start from scratch.

But I'm still stealing the files from the demo. XD

Pixel, Eigo-navi is awsome! Thank you soo much for that tool.

[Megaman Z]

I had a gut feeling that had something to do with it, considering the tutorial said you need that file (using google's translation). I'll look at it later.

[PixelWrangler]

PW>>no, I insist, take the cookie!

Okay, fine. I'll give it to my web browser... one more certainly can't hurt...

Pixel, Eigo-navi is awsome! Thank you soo much for that tool.

どういたしまして (douitashimashite)... You're welcome.

I'm really glad that you're getting good use out of eigo-navi. I recently discovered it myself, and I now use it regularly for translation in place of Babelfish.

As someone with a little bit of knowledge of the Japanese language, I can tell you that eigo-navi is also a fair bit more accurate than Babelfish, especially when it comes to translating colloquialisms and kanji compounds in context.

Ganbatte yo! (go for it!)

P.W.

[Megaman Z]

Okay, fine. I'll give it to my web browser

and if you didn't take it, I'd have said "Take the bookie now, ****it!", and then bookie'd be all confused probably.

now that my english teacher FINALLY UPDATED THE ONLINE GRADEBOOK, I'm less stressed on english work and more RAM is available for this.

[PixelWrangler]

Okay, fine. I'll give it to my web browser

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