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a warning about Google Play

#1 Post by jack_norton » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:20 am

They suspended my dev account today. As I posted in my own forums:
So... rather hilarious to be honest. They shut it down because of "multiple violations".
Some "violations" were showing women with SOME cleavage (not even that much!). Women in BIKINI (which is of course an obscenity!!!) and then a false copyright claim (they were wrong since someone claimed to be the Bionic Heart author haha).

Anyway, today they blocked me, I can't access the developer account anymore. All is gone. I'm not even bothering to get it restored to be honest since it was a mega pain every time I wanted to update something...

On iOS they're still there, not sure for how long/if they will follow the Google censorship madness. But I don't plan to release new games on iOS either.

I'll probably focus on PC only which is a MUCH MORE developer friendly environment than mobile.
So just an heads up. If your game is 100% family/kid friendly, OK. But even just a girl in bikini can get your account suspended and all your mobile money/fans gone in a day. Not something to build up a business on... :evil:
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#2 Post by Donmai » Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:03 pm

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#3 Post by verysunshine » Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:10 pm

Doesn't Google Play have an age rating system? If it was tagged correctly, the cleavage and bikini shouldn't have been a problem at all.

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#4 Post by jack_norton » Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:43 pm

Nope, that didn't matter. Basically all my games were rated 18 (I exaggerated on purpose since there wasn't even any nudity) but still they removed them.
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#5 Post by Imperf3kt » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:05 pm

Google doesn't host games rated R18, their highest rating they allow is MA15.
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#6 Post by Andredron » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:59 am

Slowly novels move to Nutaku....

I remember my friend blocked in Google Play, because he portrayed a teenager girl who sold lemonade in a stall. Blocked with the words: they say in the United States came a new law prohibiting the exploitation of children .... Something like this. It was funny, and I had to redo the whole game by cutting out that girl from the plot.
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#7 Post by jack_norton » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:38 am

Imperf3kt wrote:
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Google doesn't host games rated R18, their highest rating they allow is MA15.
Well anyway, I guess a woman in bikini should be allowed at any age? :D
This was one of the images for why they removed my game...
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same image was fine on Amazon Appstore and itunes.

Anyway, I'm putting my games on itch.io where I'm sure nobody will bother me for silly reasons like this (it's enough to mark games with adult content even when there's none).
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#8 Post by Imperf3kt » Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:35 am

I'd personally classify that as sexual innuendo, which should be MA15 at most.
My best guess would be they didn't like the excessive cleavage since that style of bikini is classified as an intimate style.
Of course, it's not much worse (and in some cases, more tame) than what I'm exposed to at my local (lol) beach
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#9 Post by jack_norton » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:54 am

Another examples:
https://twitter.com/pcmacgames/status/1 ... 3330469893
https://twitter.com/pcmacgames/status/1 ... 2514666497

(I wanted to hotlink the images but it won't let me show any bigger than 800px size which is a bit ridiculous, but whatever).

A smart company like Valve when they had this problem simply created an adult content tag and enforced it. Problem solved. Everyone gets what they want.
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#10 Post by jack_norton » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:56 am

Oh and I forgot about this real gem!! LOL this was another image considered "unappropriate for all audiences" :lol: :lol: :lol:
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SUPER MEGA CLEAVAGE EH????? DANGEROUS! LOL
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Re: a warning about Google Play

#11 Post by Imperf3kt » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:33 am

"adult" isn't merely related to the images.

Regarding making an "adult" category
- Its not cheap (all those ratings Google hands out are not free)
- Its fraught with legal complications regarding what is legal in one country, and illegal in another (sometimes even interstate within the same country)
- Google doesn't want to host adult content. Making a category for something they don't want sounds rather counter-intuitive, doesn't it?


With regards to the two images in your previous post, the first image describes an act of violence - strictly against Google's terms of service, even if its just text/a story.
The second image is not loading properly for me, but a cursory glance at the thumbnail shows no obvious reason they would refuse it classification.

In case it isn't obvious, I'm taking neither side in this, I'm just casually providing my experience as an unbiased bystander.
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#12 Post by jack_norton » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:59 am

I could find games promoting violence (real one, not just two sprites with zero blood on them) in 2 second search on Google Play...sniping games where you take down men, etc with realistic 3d art. Not posting links because I don't like that. Double standards? :D
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#13 Post by Imperf3kt » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:36 am

Google doesn't take down a game that breaks their TOS until they're aware of it. Have you reported these games?
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#14 Post by jack_norton » Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:57 am

Nah, I don't have time to waste honestly! Also in the end it's their store so they can do what they want. I'll focus my efforts on desktop only from now on.
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#15 Post by papillon » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:19 pm

Imperf3kt wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:33 am
With regards to the two images in your previous post, the first image describes an act of violence - strictly against Google's terms of service, even if its just text/a story.
This is incorrect.

The rules ban graphic, gratuitous depictions of violence or other dangerous activities, such as the promotion of terrorism, self-harm, eating disorders, animal dismemberment, shock images, etc.

Describing a sentence that mentions a punch being thrown off-screen as "strictly against Google's terms of service" is deliberately misleading.

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