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Copyright for posing?

#1 Post by leviathanimation » Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:54 pm

So if I use a random character art from google just as a reference for my character, like a reference for the pose and even the light and shadows, is it copying? Do I have to provide credit to the original artist for the pose? It would be weird if a pose would be copyrighted so..? :shock:
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#2 Post by fleet » Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:23 pm

Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer.
From what you describe, you should not be violating copyright law.
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#3 Post by GNVE » Fri Feb 28, 2020 3:02 pm

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Copyright often isn't a yes or no binary answer but more of a greyscale where if enough elements are the same it will eventually add up to substantially similar. If you only use the pose and lighting as a reference you should probably be alright.

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#4 Post by Imperf3kt » Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:18 pm

Just make sure you don't rotoscope the image, as that will be seen as a derivative of the original work.
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#5 Post by Imperf3kt » Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:51 pm

mh6562086 wrote:
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Copyright is violated if you use this product without personal changes for commercial purposes. If you need it to somehow change or modify it or improve it is not a violation of copyright
This is not right, I suggest you look up copyright laws, there are many and they all have different things you are or are not allowed to do with the file/image/thing.
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#6 Post by ISAWHIM » Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:51 pm

Copy, under most normal "legal", circumstances is "Without change to the original", a duplicate, not a "derivative work". Which, would obviously be, "a derivative work". (Which there are many "fair-use" acceptions for, in various countries.)

Unless there is actually a "legally registered copyright", with a clear claim of ownership... Even a derivative work would be of little "winnable grounds", in a court of law. Honestly, it truly depends on too many factors that any single non-copyright-lawyer could not "claim", to be certain of. Thus, the need to hire a specific lawyer, for the task, if it is actually needed. (In most cases, it isn't needed. In situations where the work of art is a "derivative".)

You have to remember that only a judge can truly determine legality. Anyone-else is just an adviser. It costs money to actually sue people. Most cases are settled out of court and either end-up in compensations or simple friendly "take-downs", being honored.

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