Quick question

[Quadratic]

For a VN I'm working, I plan on it having it's fair share of H scenes. However, I was thinking about giving the option to skip these (which would be able to be changed in the preferences menu or at the start of a new game).

If I do this, which section should I post the project in? This category, or the H category?

[J. Datie]

I believe those would go in the H category.

[Quadratic]

I believe those would go in the H category.

But people go to the H section expecting H. Which basically means that the option isn't required at all.

Maybe post it in both? I can give special H updates to the H thread, and post regular updates in both of them. It would work in theory, but in practice, I don't know.

[J. Datie]

I believe it would go in the H section for the same reason games like Mortal Kombat still get an M rating, despite the "blood off" option. Things get rated based on the entire, uh, thing. Visual novel in this case. Of course, you could post non-H updates in the regular thread, but I would advise against posting any links there, unless it's to a version that has no H content at all. Actually, there was a discussion about this a couple of years ago.

[LordShiranai]

If adult content is in the game assets, then you are distributing adult content even if there is a way to turn it off.

I personally feel it is better to make a non-H version which completely removes all of the adult content (including the removal of the related game assets, not just making them inaccessible via the game code).

[Quadratic]

If adult content is in the game assets, then you are distributing adult content even if there is a way to turn it off.

I personally feel it is better to make a non-H version which completely removes all of the adult content (including the removal of the related game assets, not just making them inaccessible via the game code).

Ah, you mean like 2 version of it? Instead of just giving the option of turning it off or not, I release a version that has them, and one that doesn't?

It would work, but it might be troublesome at times. I'll try it~

[machinist]

put this in your option.rpy and it should work...

http://www.renpy.org/wiki/renpy/doc/coo ... s_optional

although i do agree with having separate versions for all ages and adult

[Ametrya]

So adults don't have age?

I think it's enough with including the option anyway, after all it's the same as choosing which version to download

[Crocosquirrel]

Yes, but the version with would have to be in LHH, and therefore at least some effort has been made to check ages. Not that most teenage boys I know would tell the truth about their age when there was Hentai (or any nudity) in the offing, but at least it puts the responsibility on the user, and not the Author or the Site. Make two versions, one with, and one without.

CYOA doesn't always mean 'Choose Your Own Adventure.'

[machinist]

a version targeted for all ages and adult version with H scenes, you know what i mean

[LordShiranai]

I agree with the fact it is troublesome. The problem is that there are Jack Thompson types out there who think that video games are turning kids into rapists and serial killers, and as a result, want the games industry to be heavily regulated by the government.

In order to prevent this, game makers should make a reasonable effort to police themselves. This is why the ESRB exists, and why I think that even hobbyist creators should take reasonable efforts to show they care about keeping adult content out of the hands of minors. (We all know that clever teenagers are going to lie, pirate, or do other clever things if they really want to see it. The point is that you didn't just give it to them and trust they wouldn't click the check box.)

Again, this is my opinion. You are free to do what you want, and it is unlikely that you'll actually ever be in Jack Thompson's cross-hairs as an indy developer.

[Quadratic]

I agree with the fact it is troublesome. The problem is that there are Jack Thompson types out there who think that video games are turning kids into rapists and serial killers, and as a result, want the games industry to be heavily regulated by the government.

In order to prevent this, game makers should make a reasonable effort to police themselves. This is why the ESRB exists, and why I think that even hobbyist creators should take reasonable efforts to show they care about keeping adult content out of the hands of minors. (We all know that clever teenagers are going to lie, pirate, or do other clever things if they really want to see it. The point is that you didn't just give it to them and trust they wouldn't click the check box.)

Again, this is my opinion. You are free to do what you want, and it is unlikely that you'll actually ever be in Jack Thompson's cross-hairs as an indy developer.

Hmm, I had a brilliant idea.
Ask a question only someone over 18 would know~
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Bad idea. Gives new meaning to "Google it". ;;
Hmm... Something... Ah, I got it~
What happens to your bank account after you graduate high school? (Dunno if this applies in other countries).
...the answer... I forgot it exactly, but the bank closes your student account, and opens a normal account for you. Then, you can get a ______ policy.
I'd have to give the reader a chance to answer that, anyone who went to get a bank account opened should know this, when they were interviews (AFTER graduating, that is). If they get it wrong, the game blocks H scenes unless the player deletes it and redownloads. If they get it right, then it will ask if they want to see them.
...Kids'll probably ask their parents. Darn it...

[Mikan]

Dunno why you don't want to post in the H forums about your game, whether or not the porn can be turned off.
It isn't a matter of turning it off. It's a matter of hitting your target audience.
If it has pornographic content it obviously does not include kids in its target audience thus has no place in the non-H sections

[Quadratic]

Dunno why you don't want to post in the H forums about your game, whether or not the porn can be turned off.
It isn't a matter of turning it off. It's a matter of hitting your target audience.
If it has pornographic content it obviously does not include kids in its target audience thus has no place in the non-H sections

However, the H isn't the main part of it, and doesn't influence the story much either (if at all). I want the target audience to be as large as possible, and since I know a ton of people that say they only play VNs with H, I'd like them to see it too.
The only way I can see this happening is if I release two versions, one with an age check, and one without.

[Mikan]

Age checks are useless, and there are more adults than kids.
Why would you want kids to be playing your game anyway?
They tend to have no income and often have nothing to contribute.
If you want kids to play your game, make a kids game.
You may also want to consider taking the porn out if it doesn't do anything for your story.
If it is that optional, most likely it doesn't enhance your story anyway (it is filler material).