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#16 Post by Quadratic »

Mikan wrote:Age checks are useless, and there are more adults than kids.
Why would you want kids to be playing your game anyway?
They tend to have no income and often have nothing to contribute.
If you want kids to play your game, make a kids game.
You may also want to consider taking the porn out if it doesn't do anything for your story.
If it is that optional, most likely it doesn't enhance your story anyway (it is filler material).
I never said that it would be a commercial release. o-o
And I also never said it doesn't affect the story. The H itself doesn't affect the story, but the H is affected by the story. So it has importance, but the importance is immediate instead of appearing later.

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#17 Post by Crocosquirrel »

Then make a second version without the H, and refer to it on the oblique.
I'm going to get off my soap-box now, and let you get back to your day.

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#18 Post by Quadratic »

The original purpose of this thread is lost, because I never specified it.
If I make a VN, and distibute two versions of it, one with H, and one without, is it okay for me to promote it in the non-H section, as long as I don't post the H there?

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Mikan wrote:Age checks are useless, and there are more adults than kids.
Why would you want kids to be playing your game anyway?
They tend to have no income and often have nothing to contribute.
If you want kids to play your game, make a kids game.
You may also want to consider taking the porn out if it doesn't do anything for your story.
If it is that optional, most likely it doesn't enhance your story anyway (it is filler material).
Because teenagers don't buy video games? Seriously? :lol:

It's a moot point anyway since the game isn't commercial. To Quadratic: best bet is to create an H version and a non H version. Post a thread in the WIP section, and a separate one in the hentai section with updates on H scenes. If you really don't want to do that, make the hentai optional in game. As you said, the game isn't commercial so I'm not sure what the stipulations are about that sort of thing. Not that it really matters, anyone that wants to watch porn can do it easily enough. All you have to worry about are the innocent kiddies that 'accidentally' see a sex scene after you've warned them over and over and over ;).

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#20 Post by Crocosquirrel »

If you're doing just one version, you probably should post it in LHH. Two versions, two threads ;)
I'm going to get off my soap-box now, and let you get back to your day.

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#21 Post by J. Datie »

Quadratic wrote:The original purpose of this thread is lost, because I never specified it.
If I make a VN, and distibute two versions of it, one with H, and one without, is it okay for me to promote it in the non-H section, as long as I don't post the H there?
An H-game with no H is just a regular game. I don't see any problem in posting updates in the regular areas as long as there's going to be a non-H version.

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#22 Post by Quadratic »

Meh, after careful though, I've decided it will stay as an H-game. The reason is because of all the ecchi thrown in the scenes, it would take too much effort to think up new things for all of them. Unless ecchi is fine here, of course.

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#23 Post by neowired »

I don't think actually showing sex in a story adds anything to a story. Sometimes just hinting at something is a much better idea story-wise. The only reason to show sex would be to reach the horny audience who only wants porn (or if you are horny yourself ; p)

Fetish fuel isn't needed for making a story better. Although It may give you a larger audience.

That's my opinion.

Nonetheless you are assumed to rate your game depending on the overall content. Adding something as an inside option doesn't change a game rating, that's just how it works.

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Quadratic wrote: I want the target audience to be as large as possible, and since I know a ton of people that say they only play VNs with H, I'd like them to see it too.
Aside from the main question, is there even much point in doing this? If people "only play VNs with H", that suggests that they play VNs as a vehicle for seeing porn. If they wouldn't be interested at all without porn, there's a good chance they won't be interested in all the bits of your VN which aren't porn. So are they really worth having as an audience?


(As to checks - honestly, you're never going to stop all the underage guys from playing your 18+ game, so it's hardly worth trying with 'clever' questions that might actually block some genuine adults as well and still get answered by a lot of kids. The important thing isn't so much to guarantee that no kids will see your porn as to make sure that you've made it clear that it's an 18+ game. If some eight-year-old kid downloads an innocent-looking game, it turns out to be full of porn and they find it traumatic or something, then their parents might reasonably get upset with you; if some kid downloads a game which is clearly marked "18+ only" and they lie about their age and play it anyway, it's not your fault; you gave fair warning.)
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Jake wrote:
Quadratic wrote: I want the target audience to be as large as possible, and since I know a ton of people that say they only play VNs with H, I'd like them to see it too.
Aside from the main question, is there even much point in doing this? If people "only play VNs with H", that suggests that they play VNs as a vehicle for seeing porn. If they wouldn't be interested at all without porn, there's a good chance they won't be interested in all the bits of your VN which aren't porn. So are they really worth having as an audience?


(As to checks - honestly, you're never going to stop all the underage guys from playing your 18+ game, so it's hardly worth trying with 'clever' questions that might actually block some genuine adults as well and still get answered by a lot of kids. The important thing isn't so much to guarantee that no kids will see your porn as to make sure that you've made it clear that it's an 18+ game. If some eight-year-old kid downloads an innocent-looking game, it turns out to be full of porn and they find it traumatic or something, then their parents might reasonably get upset with you; if some kid downloads a game which is clearly marked "18+ only" and they lie about their age and play it anyway, it's not your fault; you gave fair warning.)
To be honest, I'm seeing the H more of a nuisance now than anything else, but I still want to keep it, because that's what the original idea included, and all of the staff members joined knowing (and a few hoping) there would be H in it. If I say that there won't be any, I'm afraid a couple of the staff might leave because they can't 'show their skill'. However, it's only a nuisance if I can't find a way around it. On that note, I might still be able to market it for people below 18, with a different version, but there's one important question I need answered.

Would ecchi/sexual themes be considered 18+? Or would it be okay to promote a game with that in the normal category? (I'm talking about the version that would have the H blocked, since that would be a no-brainer). I don't want to change the entire interaction with the characters because of that. Also, is inconspicuously mentioning that a character did 'it' with someone else allowed? Like stating, "I spent a long time with ____," after a romantic scene, while the screen fades to black, I think it should be okay, but I'm not sure. Help? @_@

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