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Re: ClichéTV: Indefinite Hiatus

#31 Post by Amarrez » Thu May 31, 2012 12:31 am

Dollywitch wrote:Yeah, so having a bit of a power on IRC or forums means you're completely beyond reason and can use it to act like a major dick?

That sounds like a solid ethical code. It's not like your way of thinking causes problems at all.
Once again, it's his IRC. He sets the rules. If he tells you to stop trying to stir up drama in forums or channels he owns, maybe you should actually stop?

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Re: ClichéTV: Indefinite Hiatus

#32 Post by Dollywitch » Thu May 31, 2012 12:31 am

Hijiri wrote:
Dollywitch wrote:Cool, I like how I'm the only one who has to do this and Gear can badmouth me as much as he likes via mass emails.
If you can, then why haven't you done it? Is it really nessisary to turn yourself into a circus show?
Dollywitch wrote:What do you believe you're standing up for exactly?

I'm sick of this community and the idea of having to play nice with people like this to have a good reputation. So I may as well be honest.
I'm standing up for the very people you demonify for your own sake. You lack any logic to support your claims, and when you do post quotes, you utterly butcher them so as to fit your needs. If you're going to quot epeople post the whole thing.
Dollywitch wrote:No I didn't. And I wasn't the only person Gear bullied. Hijiri, frankly, you're a victim blaming asshole. Either way this is not a "fact". Gear has attacked me or made snarky remarks in unrelated threads several times or sent me PMs based on things I said in IRC, etc. etc. Gear took a stance to defend a bully, half his project left. He's blaming me for that.
While I will agree that the actions taken were done with haste, I still felt they were justified for you. If I had to be honest, I, from the very start, didn't want you to join. I expected that you were going to be trouble.
Dollywitch wrote:Cool, again, since you're a victim blamer it's not surprising you'd take that stance. I was only one of a few people in that thread, and there were some blatant antagonists in it. The fact that you choose me as the problem is pretty rotten.
It's not rotten, it's an observed fact. In fact, here is where you first started posting. While Tom's comment might have started something, you just made things even worse than they could have been.
Dollywitch wrote:So this is why you suddenly snap on a very vulnerable member? I'm not seeing the logic here. If he's trying to eliminate confrontations, then the volatile nature of this post is a problem.
If you agitate a dog, of course he'll bite your hand. Same thing goes with people. You must surely know that much.
Dollywitch wrote:I like how you're acting like I'm in some kind of extreme minority when you've shown yourself to have extremely poor viewpoints on a number of levels, most notably regarding women.
That is where I draw the line. You can call me all the bullshit in the world, but to say that I have poor view on women would mean you hardly know shit about me. I'll make it short: Grown and raised by a single mother and her sister, grew up playing with almost purely girls, and taught by almost purely women. So if you're going to say something like that Dolly, then fuck you. You don;t understand anyone, yet you want people to understand you.
Cool, you're still an asshole though. Anyone who seriously sided with Gear in the split as you're more or less doing now is. Or against those of us in the women in gaming or whatever thread. You're just using the equivalent of the "gay friends" argument here. You can still have poor views of women in other ways.

You're just a bad person, Hijiri. You're defending horrible things being done to someone who had difficulty enough coping as is. That's not about saying I have difficulties, let me get away with anything. It's about wrong things being made all the more horrific by the sheer insensitivity of people like you and Gear.

You left both projects anyway, so frankly you can shut up.

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Re: ClichéTV: Indefinite Hiatus

#33 Post by Dollywitch » Thu May 31, 2012 12:32 am

Amarrez wrote:
Dollywitch wrote:Yeah, so having a bit of a power on IRC or forums means you're completely beyond reason and can use it to act like a major dick?

That sounds like a solid ethical code. It's not like your way of thinking causes problems at all.
Once again, it's his IRC. He sets the rules. If he tells you to stop trying to stir up drama in forums or channels he owns, maybe you should actually stop?
Or maybe I could not be spineless and actually take a stance against someone who's doing something wrong? This is why the internet scares me, people accept authority so easily.

Also, again, he snapped out of nowhere. I was talking to him civilly. He was being unreasonable. And his moderation is inconsistent in a deeply offensive manner. Saying it's his forum hurr doesn't justify that if it actually hurts other people.

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Re: ClichéTV: Indefinite Hiatus

#34 Post by Enigma » Thu May 31, 2012 12:33 am

This isn't the place to deal with it. Now I'm not trying to take anyones side, but I'm also not to fond of all this drama out in plain sight. PMs are a good way to go about it.

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Re: ClichéTV: Indefinite Hiatus

#35 Post by PyTom » Thu May 31, 2012 12:33 am

OH FFS. Looks like none of the other mods are awake. I'm gonna lock this for the time being, and let them handle it when they wake up.
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