My Little Dictator [War][Romance]

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Re: My Little Dictator [War][Romance]

#16 Post by CaseyLoufek »

Anne wrote:
DesertFox wrote: Besides, the game I want to make is a game of Hitler.
Thought so, just don't really understand why. The only thing you seem to gain is displeasure of people whose families suffered from Hitler / Stalin (doesn't seem like here are any but still)
Personally I find the idea of ANY sort of censorship far more offensive than any form of information. At this point I want this project made because you're suggesting it shouldn't be made because it might be offensive to some people.

There are also some serious advantages to Hitler over an OC. It's obviously not serious or historically accurate. In a way you're saved the trouble of HAVING to demonize Hitler because it's been done to death. It goes without saying. With some random OC dictator you loose that and either have to show the character's darkside, ruining the mood, or wind up with what could be seen as a de facto endorsement of fascism and dictatorship.

I support anyone's right of free speech but I would be hesitant to support a product that endorses fascism, on the other hand a product that makes fun of something most people take way too seriously and that the Fuhrer himself would probably have an embolism over tickles my fancy.
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DesertFox wrote: Every dictator's responsible for some atrocity.
Pixel ones hurt pixel people while real ones not so much

I'm curious because apart from that I find the idea very interesting.
People who are offended hurt themselves, information does not harm. If somebody takes offense at something that is entirely upon them, not the person who they say offended them.

Frankly, Hitler wasn't so bad. Sure he was an evil fascist who condemned millions to death. But history is FULL of such people. Hitler merely happens to the latest example of such that we fought against. He's got nothing on many of the rulers of ancient Rome, a civilization some people actually idolize. So I take offense at the idea that Hitler is "special" and that comparing someone to Hitler is forbidden. He did not single handedly decide Nazi policy but was more of a figurehead. Hitler isn't an anomaly, an abberation or the evilest person in history, those are the lies we tell ourselves so we can pretend this could never be our societies. He's really an example of a very common archetype of person.

So before you get all bent out of shape, think how a citizen of ancient Celtia would feel about deceptions of Julius Caesar as heroic or harmless.

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#17 Post by Carassaurat »

PyTom wrote:"I was never crazy about Hitler...If you stand on a soapbox and trade rhetoric with a dictator you never win...That's what they do so well: they seduce people. But if you ridicule them, bring them down with laughter, they can't win. You show how crazy they are." - Mel Brooks
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CaseyLoufek wrote: At this point I want this project made because you're suggesting it shouldn't be made because it might be offensive to some people.
I wonder where you've got that idea from. But I'd personally avoid issues that might offend people if that doesn't bring anything into my story (because otherwise why?). So I got curious what reasons the author might have to do so.

I also wonder if for you turning someone into a girl makes them a laughing-stock? Because I find it cute (okay, Hitler would probably disagree) *so that kind of makes me think that the game does endorse fascism*
CaseyLoufek wrote: Personally I find the idea of ANY sort of censorship far more offensive than any form of information.
I might disagree with you here (though it has nothing to do with the game we're discussing) - for instance is it alright to make a sex game about children?

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I also wonder if for you turning someone into a girl makes them a laughing-stock? Because I find it cute (okay, Hitler would probably disagree) *so that kind of makes me think that the game does endorse fascism*
Um, no, does turning someone into a girl make them a laughing stock in your opinion? That seems pretty here nor there to what I was saying.

It is the depiction of Hitler as "cute", young, and most of all weak that I think is amusing and would be offensive to Hitler himself, gender has nothing to do with it. Hitler here is relying on the analog of Japan to save Germany in Europe which flies against Aryan propaganda.
might disagree with you here (though it has nothing to do with the game we're discussing) - for instance is it alright to make a sex game about children?
At the risk of going to far off topic, I think it's more alright than children being denied access to sexual education material because somebody finds it offensive. "Sex game about children", technically, could describe a sadistic torture scenario or an edutainment game explaining how the human body works. Plenty of religious fundamentalists WILL use such terms to describe educational material. Once you say it's okay to censor information because it may be offensive you open the door to subjective tastes and the whims of who holds office. What is educational to one person is pornography to the next and the people who feel they have a right to determine what others should see will gravitate toward censorship positions. Freedom of speech cannot be limited without being lost.

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Reading all the posts; DesertFox should just do what he/she wants and not care what other people think.
It feeds the people who are making unnecessary drama for them.

Besides, this isn't the first time Hitler has been in a Visual Novel potrait as a little girl anyway. (Hitler; IN SPAAAAAAAACE)
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Everyone's arguing about Hitler and I'm just sitting here wondering if my home country Belgium's role in WWII will be adequately portrayed.
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#23 Post by Carassaurat »

To elaborate: it's not about 'endorsing fascism', it's about trivialising and making fun of the subjection, torture, humiliation, dehumanisation and industrial extermination of millions of people. There are a lot of ways of looking at World War II; concluding that it's really quite funny when you look at it, is, in my humble opinion, an affront to the dignity of all who suffered from it. That's not History — it's the opposite. History is respecting the past, respecting the people who lived and preserving their memory. It is not distorting or omitting events so that it might seem less tragic than it was. I believe you should shock people; but it's a poor writer who can only shock by offending, one who doesn't respect his or her audience.

[Disclaimer: I probably wouldn't have been around if my grandfather hadn't escaped when he was being deported to Germany for labour duty.]

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Visit http://war-girl.com for the most up to date information on this game.
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#26 Post by G3rman »

I am greatly anticipating this game. I suppose the Advance War sprites you have are being used as mockups until you get custom assets? As a fan I recognized them immediately as being considerably fitting.

As a history buff I was interested in the project. As a design student interested in using VNs for teaching kids special topics like History, I am very intrigued to see your implementation here.

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Visit http://war-girl.com for the most up to date information on this game.
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#28 Post by semewelamb »

So when you say you get stronger when you win, does it mean you acquire more troops and etc. like you do in the board game Risk (one of my favorite board games)? Is it a set number that increases or does it vary depending on what happens during battle?

* whistles Springtime for Hitler and Germany* (Now I can't get that tune out of my head.)

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Visit http://war-girl.com for the most up to date information on this game.
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Visit http://war-girl.com for the most up to date information on this game.
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