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#31 Post by ypressgames » Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:55 pm

Hi Guys!

Just popping in to let you know we had another update on the Kickstarter. I introduce myself and some of my past works:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/70 ... ts/2123292

Thanks to those of you here who played the demo! And especially thanks to those who backed us. :)

EDIT: Sorry, I missed a few things before a replied. Thanks Arosia! I appreciate the encouragement. PMscenarios Yes, the sentencing was deliberate to add time to each of the images. I do plan to do edits on the demo before the game goes live. I have been listening to comments--even those comments from people who are unwilling to play the demo--though not as much as those who've actually played it. ;)

If there's is anything I can answer for a potential backer, something you need cleared up before you proceed with backing the project--you're the folks I want to hear from the most. I'm beholden to my backers, you're the one's I'm employed by. I'm here drumming up support for the game, for my team, and for our dream. Those of you who are willing to support us have my 100% attention. I appreciate all of you who have backed us so much!!
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#32 Post by ypressgames » Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:42 pm

Hi again!! I have another update on the Kickstarter:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/70 ... ts/2125520

There's an offer for free ebooks in exchange for Thunderclapping my Kickstarter. Would anyone here who is 18 or older be interested in that?

The Thunderclap is here:
https://www.thunderclap.it/projects/684 ... ickstarter

And I'm offering a free ebook for each place you clap me out of the ones shown here (you must turn off the ADULT button to view them all)
https://www.smashwords.com/books/search ... Abraham%22

If you're interested, please sign up to clap me and then send me a message! Comment here if you do, because I might forget to check. ~~;

Thanks guys! I'd appreciate any help we can get. While it's true we've made $14k in 9 days, its really slowing down. Nothing is certain until we make our goal!
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#33 Post by Magiriano » Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:43 pm

Hello, it's me again. Just a couple of questions, you can even not answer, I ask them out of curiosity.

1. When designing the demons, did you think about giving them different cute tails? This is a wonderful fetish and a peculiar part of the body, which could be given attention even in a comic manner.

2. How did you design the horns? Was there a discussion of how to make them - whether they will grow from the forehead, temples, nape or from under the hair on the head?

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#34 Post by ypressgames » Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:29 am

1. Yes. But it gets in the way of buttsechs.

2. I told my artist to draw four muscular demons who were mostly human but with horns and skin markings. One large and honorable, one large and perverted, one smaller and gentle, one smaller and shy. They decided the rest, and of course I loved what they did. Every time I give an artist specific descriptions for characters they are vanilla. When the artist has freedom to design they are always better than I could have imagined. The horns were all them, but in the story I decided to make it significant on whether their horns pointed up or down.

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#35 Post by ypressgames » Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:02 pm

Aaaaand we're funded!!! Thanks to everyone who helped support us!!
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#36 Post by ypressgames » Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:14 am

Hi Everyone!!

I REWROTE THE DEMO.

I took a lot of your advice to heart and also changed it to a more narrative style making it much longer. It went from 16,518 words to 27,142.

Besides being much longer and giving us more background and personality from each character, here are some changes I made:
  • The Gay for you Trope was dropped
  • The only female character was made less bitchy
  • It is clear that Raiden and Arata weren't tricking Kenta to be their Incubus bait
  • It's clear that the incubi aren't using their powers to seduce Kenta
  • The incubi make sure Kenta understands he has a choice on whether to bond with the, and they weren't expected that he would
The sequence of the demo and the art is the same, so it might not be worth it to dowload and play again, but if you want to here is the download links:

https://ypressgames.com/2018/02/12/to-t ... ubus-demo/
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#37 Post by ParrotWatcher » Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:50 am

Well, I've only tried Saji thus far, but it's certainly an improvement. His pleas for help could still be emotional blackmail, but they do feel far more heartfelt. ("Please help me because I'm scared" rather than "You have to help me because we bonded.")

And congratulations on the Kickstarter! Hopefully you can reach some of the stretch goals, too. :)

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#38 Post by Magiriano » Fri Mar 16, 2018 2:19 am

Hello again. Congratulations on the good progress in the campaign.
Unfortunately, my words can upset you. I want to summarize all my impressions about the game as the news is published on the Kickstarter page. This is not only my opinion, it may reflect the impressions of many others. I like this project, but it disagrees with my idea of giving erotic fantasies and I want to clarify what causes stupor. This is not a request or a requirement to change anything. And I still wish success to this project. But... This is an explanation of those nuances that destroy fantasy and the opportunity for other users to see similar reflections.

First, I do not know how the tails can cause difficulties. Eskimo kisses, fluffy tails, lynx ears, creepy wings and even membranes on the feet of amphibians became objects of fetishization in the furry subculture. All these inhuman parts of the body do not interfere with animals or zoomorphic people. If I had sex with an incubus, I would even like to lick his horns. But in the game the horns look like decorations. They do not cause admiration, they do not cause fright, they do not feel any physical or emotional contact.

Secondly, the fact that visually incubus differ from humans only by horns that grow from somewhere in the hair on the head, destroys the very fantasy of sex with them. It might not be horns, but artificial cat ears, which are put on the head - no difference. They are so much like ordinary people that they can put on hats and become completely indistinguishable. These horns, the only visual difference from people, do not participate in the process and do not give any distinctive features. I understand that you want to bring an interesting story into the game, but the erotic part of the game is weakened by the fact that demons are not like demons. I do not feel that the hero has sex with demons (I would like to describe it in more harsh words, stronger ones, but this may violate the rules of behavior on the forum).

Thirdly, weddings, bondings and other forms of tying people give the game a shade of otome. Romance is beautiful. Incubus and succubus are called to fulfill human dreams. But the otome is not a yaoi or a bara. Yes, I'm now in the role of Captain Obvious. Love is a wonderful reason for two people to be together, but this is not an obligation to be bound by any ties.

Remember the story of "Beauty and the Beast". I would be much more impressed with the story of frightful demons, who have a mutual sympathy for the protagonist (and this can be considered a Stockholm Syndrome, because they are prisoners). Here I see a love story that evokes memories about films with James Bond, and the general structure of history and game is associated with melodrama and otome, but with the young man in the title role. I'm sure this will be a successful game, but this story does not look like a fantasy, a mirage or a wet dream. Not like a wild wet dream. Not at all.

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#39 Post by bobconway » Fri Mar 16, 2018 6:28 pm

I feel like I've been derelict in my duties somehow by not posting in the thread for a BxB game. :P

I've been following this since the beginning (congrats on your successful funding!), but my initial impressions of the game, before playing it, was a general disinterest? I have a hard time saying why that is, exactly, but Magiriano's comments above may be a bit of why: The incubi look different enough from humans (with the horns, maybe) that I just don't find them attractive, but they also look close enough to humans that I can't suspend disbelief in the right ways like I would be able to if they were more obviously animal-like or something... and not finding them attractive is problematic in a serious game about sex, and particularly where lust and desire *for* them is an important part of the story.
This wouldn't necessarily matter if at least one of the guys worked for me, but I actually find all of them, at least initially, to look extremely similar. (As someone who tends to take stricter definitions of yaoi and bara, this is arguably neither of those, which is fine, but it also just superficially feels a bit like four of the same thing.)

This isn't necessarily meant to be criticism of the game or art or your design decisions, because obviously plenty of others *do* find the guys attractive enough, but hopefully that conveys a bit of my initial mindset.

But I tried the latest demo (having not played the first demo), and I have to say that I was pleasantly surprised in many ways.
You manage to set the personalities of each guy apart pretty well, and a lot of the non-con "turning" stuff that has been talked about in the thread seems to have been fixed. Importantly, I find the story interesting enough that I want to see what happens next, even if there were still a few things that I felt were confusing or out of place.
So, in that sense, your demo succeeds at what it should set out to do. Kudos for that.

Anyway, now I'm torn. The art is well drawn, but I strangely found that the sex scenes actually drew me *out* of the plot. Not sure if it was my initial reservations, the writing, or something else.
Regardless I do think you have something special here, and the story might be enough to bring me back.

And hey, more BxB in the world can only be a good thing, so thank you for that, at least.
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#40 Post by ypressgames » Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:49 am

Thanks for popping in Bobconway. :) And thanks for commenting Magiriano. I really don't have a response for either post, but am grateful for the input.

I read somewhere that people with depression often have low self-esteem and never think anything they do is 'good enough.' This is me. I always take compliments with a grain of salt, and I never claim to be a 'great' writer, despite having supported myself with my writing income for many years. I'm the first to criticize the writing in To Trust an Incubus, I take other criticisms to heart and often feel others know what's best rather than me. When people say something is wrong with my work I tend to believe it, and even believe that such criticism can make the entire project worthless...or something so tremendously flawed that I should hide it. This is why I was quick with a rewrite when I got so much feedback about certain things.

This project has made $23,000 so far. Many other visual novels have much lower goals and tend to make much less. I was funded in 14 days, sooner than I expected, and new backers are joining us every day. This tells me that no matter my own insecurities 372 people have said this work has merit. Maybe it's more for the art than for my writing, but whatever the case--I can't disregard how great an accomplishment achieving this much funding was.

And I can't take new criticisms to mean that the work is ruined or meritless. Backers have spoken to me with their money. They said you're as good as those other visual novel Kickstarters and maybe even good enough for Steam. I may never be 'perfect' but even with my fragile notions of worth I think To Trust an Incubus is 'good enough.' I will strive to make the remainder of the game something rich and satisfying, as much as is within my ability to create, and if someone enjoyed the demo I feel confident in saying the will also enjoy the rest of the game.

That's the best I can do, and I truly think it's not great, but 'good enough.' (Except for the art, which is fantastic.)
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#41 Post by ypressgames » Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:18 pm

Hi guys!

I recently did a podcast interview with the lovely women from Top to Bottom about To Trust an Incubus. A lot of interesting things were discussed, including the next game we have planned. Give a listen here:

https://www.toptobotmpodcast.com/single ... sual-Novel
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#42 Post by exizel » Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:57 pm

I really like the podcast and it was really interesting.

Don't sell yourself short on your work, even if it's true that the artwork will sell the game, your writing and the gameplay element of the game will left a big impression on the players,
Since we can't see it in the demo, how exactly does the stats system will work?(How do you get them?, how many are there?,...)

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#43 Post by ypressgames » Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:06 am

Hi Exizel,

Sorry I didn't check this board for a while. I appreciate the comment about my writing. :)

You have stats for different things in different routes. It could be a Discovery stat to try to figure out why the incubi came to our world. You will be given choices and if you pick the right choices then you get points toward 'Discovery'. Eventually if you get enough points you open a path in the game with the information you want. There's lots of different stats and they aren't all the same in route.
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#44 Post by ypressgames » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:58 pm

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#45 Post by Lesleigh63 » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:52 pm

Congratulations you've done very well with your kickstarter.
Don't second guess yourself with your writing - you are not going to please everyone (it's impossible). Make the game you want to play (it will keep your motivation up).
Plus even though it's bxb you are trying to bring together yaoi and bara audiences.
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