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Nope. It just makes it easier. You don't even need digital work to make VNs. There is no reason you can't use traditonal work in a VN. Mouse work is fine too, it can just be more time consuming and can be hard on the hands. A tablet is all about ease and functionality, but it isn't directly needed. That said, I have one and I love it.
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Well . . . no . . . but it helps quite a bit.thedarkdefender wrote:Does one really have to use a tablet to draw for VN's?
(yeah, noobish question)
Using a tablet speeds up art creation and makes it more natural like drawing on paper. It allows you to quickly do things that are very time consuming to replicate with a mouse, like pressure-sensitive effects and brushes. It makes inking art much quicker. As you get more experienced you can even skip the draw on paper and scan method and just draw from start to finish on the computer, taking out the time and step of having to clean up scanned line-art.
Most importantly, it saves your wrists from the damage that can occur from long term use of the mouse. Drawing with a mouse requires a lot more wrist movement and twists than using a mouse to browse and click on files. People have required wrist surgery from using the mouse to draw for years (two of my classmates at art school had this happen).
A tablet is a good long term investment if you are serious about creating digital art. Most of the Wacom tablets even come with software deals or free copies of Adobe graphics programs, saving you money in that department as well. The size of the tablet is not as important as making sure you get the best pen sensitivity you can and making sure the pen has tilt sensitivity. Tilt sensitivity isn't generally included on the Wacom Bamboo tablets, but it makes a huge difference in replicating the feel of drawing on paper, because it detects the angle the tip is to the tablet, allowing you to replicate your exact drawing style on the computer.
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Wow. That alarmed me XDLateWhiteRabbit wrote:Well . . . no . . . but it helps quite a bit.thedarkdefender wrote:Does one really have to use a tablet to draw for VN's?
(yeah, noobish question)
Most importantly, it saves your wrists from the damage that can occur from long term use of the mouse. Drawing with a mouse requires a lot more wrist movement and twists than using a mouse to browse and click on files. People have required wrist surgery from using the mouse to draw for years (two of my classmates at art school had this happen).
Okay, now I must save for a tablet to save my wrist
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On the same note, may I ask a question?
I'm saving up for a tablet myself, but when I asked my parents, they agreed to split the cost in half. Then they asked "Tablet or iPad?"
I'm not too sure of how to answer. As far as I'm concerned, isn't an iPad a tablet?
Cost doesn't bother me too much (as long as it isn't THAT much different from a regular tablet), since I'm gonna graduate soon and I'm gonna get a sort of graduation bonus from... a few people. XD
I'm saving up for a tablet myself, but when I asked my parents, they agreed to split the cost in half. Then they asked "Tablet or iPad?"
I'm not too sure of how to answer. As far as I'm concerned, isn't an iPad a tablet?
Cost doesn't bother me too much (as long as it isn't THAT much different from a regular tablet), since I'm gonna graduate soon and I'm gonna get a sort of graduation bonus from... a few people. XD
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Re: Just wondering
The tablets they are talking about are these kinds: http://www.wacom.com/en/Products/Bamboo ... blets.aspx
They feel like paper and you generally connect them to an actual computer.
The ipad has a limited number of and quality of apps that do things related to drawing. It also does not feel like paper. It isn't pressure sensitive either.
These are very different things. If you're going for drawing art, I would suggest looking into something besides the ipad (or other tablet PCs)
They feel like paper and you generally connect them to an actual computer.
The ipad has a limited number of and quality of apps that do things related to drawing. It also does not feel like paper. It isn't pressure sensitive either.
These are very different things. If you're going for drawing art, I would suggest looking into something besides the ipad (or other tablet PCs)
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Re: Just wondering
NO! No, no, no. Negative, in other words, just to be super clear.roankun wrote: As far as I'm concerned, isn't an iPad a tablet?
A graphics tablet is different from an iPad. You want a product that the Wacom company makes - they are the leader in graphics tablet tech. In fact, I've never met anyone with a tablet that wasn't a Wacom.
A graphics tablet uses a pen stylus with a plastic nib used to draw on the surface that translates that input into lines on the computer screen.
See this video for a demonstration of a graphics tablet.
An iPad can be used to sketch digitally, but it is still a very poor substitute for graphics tablets.
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Say iPad 2 and then you buy Wacom Bamboo series yourself ;P
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No. All you need is your hands and at least pencil with paper. Everything else is just a helpful tool. Before I had a tablet, I was drawing art on the paper then scaning it and tracing in photoshop with "Pen" tool. It took more time than with tablet but the effect was better than just drawing with mouse (though I know some people wro can draw amazing pictures only with mouse). The main disadvantage is that you can't change something that fast. You'll need to redo lines with "Pen" or redraw, rescan and only then redo lines. Takes a lot of time.Does one really have to use a tablet to draw for VN's?
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Oh. Wow, now I kinda feel stupid for asking. XD Thanks for the answer, though.
So it's basically ermmm... Something like an application for a program? It won't work unless connected to a computer...? I was hoping for something I could use as a laptop for college, but... Well, buying a tablet like that when I don't even intend to go professional in the art community is kinda tight...
So... uuhh... My parents were kinda recommending a Samsung Galaxy tablet... Is that good enough? (They don't approve of the graphics tablet)
So it's basically ermmm... Something like an application for a program? It won't work unless connected to a computer...? I was hoping for something I could use as a laptop for college, but... Well, buying a tablet like that when I don't even intend to go professional in the art community is kinda tight...
So... uuhh... My parents were kinda recommending a Samsung Galaxy tablet... Is that good enough? (They don't approve of the graphics tablet)
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Re: Just wondering
You can actually use something like an iPad or the Samsung Galaxy to create art, but I imagine it would be severely limited in comparison to drawing at a desktop or a laptop (I use a laptop). Artists like Emperpep have used it. She even has a video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Was8Lx5GDwg
The thing is digital drawing programs usually take up a lot of memory space. Not only that, most people prefer to use a very large canvas while drawing. Think... 4000+ px. The reason behind this is that you can make lineart smoother and more detailed and hide your mistakes easier on resizing xD By using the current tablets you're severely limited not only by power but also screen size. The benefits? I would LOVE to be able to zoom in like that. I can move the ring on my tablet, but I hate it and it doesn't respond as I would like v_v
If you feel like you do eventually want to get into digital drawing and have experimented with your mouse enough, you may want to consider saving up if you're able. My Bamboo Fun tablet has served me faithfully for three years now and it was around $80-90 CAD. They're basically a fraction of the cost a Galaxy would cost you :\
Oh, and I second the pen tool. I even use it now since I have a rather shaky hand when I've had too much coffee... which is often when I'm working on freelance stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Was8Lx5GDwg
The thing is digital drawing programs usually take up a lot of memory space. Not only that, most people prefer to use a very large canvas while drawing. Think... 4000+ px. The reason behind this is that you can make lineart smoother and more detailed and hide your mistakes easier on resizing xD By using the current tablets you're severely limited not only by power but also screen size. The benefits? I would LOVE to be able to zoom in like that. I can move the ring on my tablet, but I hate it and it doesn't respond as I would like v_v
If you feel like you do eventually want to get into digital drawing and have experimented with your mouse enough, you may want to consider saving up if you're able. My Bamboo Fun tablet has served me faithfully for three years now and it was around $80-90 CAD. They're basically a fraction of the cost a Galaxy would cost you :\
Oh, and I second the pen tool. I even use it now since I have a rather shaky hand when I've had too much coffee... which is often when I'm working on freelance stuff.
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Re: Just wondering
It's an input device, just like a keyboard or a mouse, but made so you can draw on it with a stylus. They usually don't have screens.roankun wrote: So it's basically ermmm... Something like an application for a program? It won't work unless connected to a computer...?
Don't feel bad about getting confused... I went to Best Buy and asked to see their graphics tablets, and the guy working led me straight to the tablet computers. Not what I meant... but nobody knows the difference now, because graphics tablets were not something that the majority of people knew existed in the first place.
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Thanks!
I have a laptop AND a desktop myself, but I prefer the desktop so my mom practically owns the laptop by now. (She connects it to the TV lol)
I see... It's a lot cheaper than I imagined. I might just buy one for home use. I didn't actually want a Galaxy. I just thought it was the kind of tablet I needed for my hobby. I've only started drawing with the mouse for around a month, but I'm starting to get scared of... RPS, was it? Anyway, those things that require wrist surgery. XD
I'll try looking around for something. Thanks for the help!
@thedarkdefender. Sorry for hijacking your thread. XD
I have a laptop AND a desktop myself, but I prefer the desktop so my mom practically owns the laptop by now. (She connects it to the TV lol)
I see... It's a lot cheaper than I imagined. I might just buy one for home use. I didn't actually want a Galaxy. I just thought it was the kind of tablet I needed for my hobby. I've only started drawing with the mouse for around a month, but I'm starting to get scared of... RPS, was it? Anyway, those things that require wrist surgery. XD
I'll try looking around for something. Thanks for the help!
@thedarkdefender. Sorry for hijacking your thread. XD
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Hey, that's just what I want to do with my laptop. Haven't buy the TV though, it's pretty expensive.roankun wrote:(She connects it to the TV lol)
You mean RSI (Repetitive Strain Injury)?roankun wrote:... RPS, was it? Anyway, those things that require wrist surgery. XD
Yeah, that's scary. That's the reason why I buy myself a graphic tablet... since drawing with mouse hurts my wrist every time.
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Um...that's not exactly on topic but I don't want to create new topic for such a little question.
Does anybody know if I can use pen from another Wacom tablet with my Bamboo Fun Pen & Touch?
Does anybody know if I can use pen from another Wacom tablet with my Bamboo Fun Pen & Touch?
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