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#2611 Post by Almar » Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:33 pm

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#2612 Post by Ren » Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:46 pm

I'd say the main problem you have is that you don't imagine how the volumes really work and shade accordingly, but instead you work on a preconceived idea of how things should be (as opposed to how they could be).
Also, her left eye seems a bit too big, even considered it's nearer to the viewer, and the mouth a bit out of centre.

I'd advise making a scheme for yourself, once you have the basic idea on paper or on screen, so that you can adjust your sketch accordingly.

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#2613 Post by azraillesama » Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:08 pm

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#2614 Post by fortaat » Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:00 pm

10+ points for bunny cloud.

* Stop using gradients so heavily for the skin. Either you paint it with brushes, or go over the final product with brushes. The gradients make the girls look like dolls, and messes basic shading you could have easily done by hand.
This problem was also prevalent in an earlier drawing you posted, as well as your Deviant account, so I say it should be high on the "To Improve" list.
The green skirt is fine, so I don't think you really need me for explanations.

* They don't make any shadows on the bed. They "float".

* The scene has a purple sunset light, which isn't reflected at all on the girls.

* the wall should have more shading, if only to hide the fact you used a pattern. I don't have a problem with the pattern itself, but if you add the smallest hint of shadows it will look better.

* Is the purple smudge under the left girl a different blanket from the yellow one?

* Right girl has an ugly hat. This is unacceptable, since women have all the good hats, like this one.

* The rubies on the right girl's shirt don't look like they're attached to the fabric.

* The throat of the left girl needs another go, highlighting the lights. Right now it looks like a tube, instead of a rounded triangle.

* Fair warning, I don't like "cute" faces - the girl on the left has something in her eye, and she says "Baaaaaaaah". The one on the right has a retarded smile, which seems quite detached from what's happening to her friend.


Nice piece, though as you said, it's still unrefined.

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#2615 Post by azraillesama » Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:45 pm

fortaat wrote:10+ points for bunny cloud.

* Stop using gradients so heavily for the skin. Either you paint it with brushes, or go over the final product with brushes. The gradients make the girls look like dolls, and messes basic shading you could have easily done by hand.
This problem was also prevalent in an earlier drawing you posted, as well as your Deviant account, so I say it should be high on the "To Improve" list.
The green skirt is fine, so I don't think you really need me for explanations.

* They don't make any shadows on the bed. They "float".

* The scene has a purple sunset light, which isn't reflected at all on the girls.

* the wall should have more shading, if only to hide the fact you used a pattern. I don't have a problem with the pattern itself, but if you add the smallest hint of shadows it will look better.

* Is the purple smudge under the left girl a different blanket from the yellow one?

* Right girl has an ugly hat. This is unacceptable, since women have all the good hats, like this one.

* The rubies on the right girl's shirt don't look like they're attached to the fabric.

* The throat of the left girl needs another go, highlighting the lights. Right now it looks like a tube, instead of a rounded triangle.
I'm using paint tool SAI on all my works btw, i don't use photoshop/gradients/smudge/dodge etc at all.

Thank you very much on pointing out my faults at the skin. Tbh they kept saying it looks like a doll but not telling me how to fix it including the shading at the neck.
I asked the leader of the group that I'm open for revisions , but they were okay with it already.
I am aware of the shadows, lack of shading on the walls.
But thank you for giving me the idea to use real life references on hats/accessories/clothing, since i have problem with it the most.
yep, it's a different blanket.

fortaat wrote: * Fair warning, I don't like "cute" faces - the girl on the left has something in her eye, and she says "Baaaaaaaah". The one on the right has a retarded smile, which seems quite detached from what's happening to her friend.
Though I kinda won't consider this one. Sounds like you're trolling rather than giving a crit :P My friends (who hates anime) clearly see it as curiosity love or something like that.

Anyway, you're a great help. At dA I receive critiques rarely but whenever I receive one , it's so rare that I remember it. So no worries I'll guarantee less mistakes the next time around.
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#2616 Post by MaiMai » Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:00 am

Decided to try one layer painting in SAI with a Pokemon OC I made up. I think it turned out okay

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#2617 Post by sayuri » Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:38 am

Aww, how cute! I like her pokeball ties, even if red and pink don't work together. Can't do anything about it though. I kinda want to see her eyes though...

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#2618 Post by Sakurazaki » Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:50 am

Geh I've realised that my art quality is pretty poor compared to a lot of people here ;_;

Image for an RP, in a new coloring style.

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#2619 Post by azraillesama » Sat Aug 28, 2010 2:42 am

Mai, that's way awesome for a one layer work. :D She's cute as well.
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#2620 Post by kinougames » Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:06 pm

Sakurazaki wrote:Geh I've realised that my art quality is pretty poor compared to a lot of people here ;_;

Image for an RP, in a new coloring style.

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#2621 Post by Almar » Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:43 pm

Ren wrote:I'd say the main problem you have is that you don't imagine how the volumes really work and shade accordingly, but instead you work on a preconceived idea of how things should be (as opposed to how they could be).
Also, her left eye seems a bit too big, even considered it's nearer to the viewer, and the mouth a bit out of centre.

I'd advise making a scheme for yourself, once you have the basic idea on paper or on screen, so that you can adjust your sketch accordingly.
Thank you so much! (sorry I haven't responded till now... I couldn't log in with chrome and I just tried FF O_O)

Sorry for my ignorance but what do you mean by scheme? (do you mean perhaps a very basic sketch? :S)

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#2622 Post by mugenjohncel » Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:23 am

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#2623 Post by Red Lilies » Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:36 am

Lol, helicopters FTW. Nice backgrounds, completely impressed. O.O
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#2624 Post by yummy » Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:18 am

Nice backgrounds there Mugen-dono.
I think there's only a lack in the reflections (hues or something like that) and shadows from tree to tree, to make the scenes more lively, but overall, it's quite pretty.

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#2625 Post by fortaat » Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:33 am

Very nice BGs.
I really should go over your old background guide.

* The shadows on left benches are wrong - like they're a part of the ground.

* The leaves on the right tree have an odd contour. I guess you used Photoshop's feather, and than delete, which makes it look bad. I don't know what the original looked like, so I can't offer suggestions on what you should do.

* I think you should try an "out of focus" effect on the left trees and bushes.

* The helicopter is nice, but it should fight the alien invasion.

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