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#1 Post by Sayuui »

I'm closing this thread at the moment, since it's been a lot of answers. If you were looking for criticism, you can take a look at the answers I've already given and my tutorial compilation! https://1drv.ms/f/s!Ao4qLLCk2VwLgU_K0sSmtQlLHJY5

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So please send me your art, I will do my best to identify your flaws and help you! I have a lot of helpful tutorials and guide images myself, so I can consider myself useful, I guess @ A @ Though I say in advance that I'm not pretty good at criticising literature or music, I'm mostly a visual person.

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#2 Post by purrsephonekitten »

!! me please!
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anything that's fullbody i'd like feedback on please Q v Q <3

chibis are still wip even in my own style, but i'm sort-of satisfied with the fullbodies!

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This is very nice of you to do!! (*o*)

If you wouldn't mind, can you critique some of mine as well? Gallery

I don't really have any preference on what you critique, so have at whatever piece(s) you feel like doing or can immediately see problems with. ^^

Thank you very much for the opportunity! :mrgreen:

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purrsephonekitten wrote:!! me please!
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anything that's fullbody i'd like feedback on please Q v Q <3

chibis are still wip even in my own style, but i'm sort-of satisfied with the fullbodies!
Ah, I think I commented on your VN project earlier! I absolutely love your gallery, it's adorable!! <33333
Well, I won't say you have a big of an issue with your anatomy (in case that's what you were expecting me to say, haha > v <;;;;;;). On the contrary, your anatomy is cute, suiting and it's pretty good. Besides, drawing the feet a little bigger than they should be is a matter of style, and that's what I think you should develop.

I realise you love soft coloring and you have an influence in Yamio's old style (I like her current art, but I don't like her hahahahh xD) anyways, the only thing I would tell you to take care is contrast. You make the lines very soft and the lines have a very close tone. For screens like the one I'm looking at right now, it's really difficult do distinguish. Especially on dA, where thumbnails matter so much and determine your number of views. Not only the lines, but the shades are not really "shading" anything ^^'', especially for this piece: http://purrsephonekitten.deviantart.com ... -625669296

Talking of her, let's take one of her old drawings and alert you to something you should be careful with! Take a look: http://yamio.deviantart.com/art/Sugar-Himico-306192969

It looks adorable, but note that you revert it to grayscale on photoshop, all the color will be kept within the ribbon an her dress, lacking color on her hair. The light looks pretty blurry as well, you're never sure of where it's coming from. However, the contrast with the colors and the lines look great. Try using other programs to convert your drawing to grayscale often and seeing if your color balance is ok. In her case, the balance is going to be way further than it was supposed to be, while yours is still beyond.

More advice: avoid using colors that are too close to shade! that can make your painting way more out of your comfort zone and prettier. My advice is to try to create a pallete before you start drawing and try criticizing yourself, or taking a pallete that's already done, like this one: http://yamio.deviantart.com/art/Tutoria ... -519927429. What I'm saying is basically what's written on this tutorial: http://kawacy.deviantart.com/art/Normal ... -526828438

This artist is a good example. Even though her anatomy fails a lot, she does a lot of soft coloring and contrasts pretty well! http://chiiteru.deviantart.com/gallery/

Also, take a lot of artists as reference! Having a lot of artists as reference makes your brain work better with art in general. It improves everything!

That's all, I hope I was helpful! <3333

robovelociraptor wrote:This is very nice of you to do!! (*o*)

If you wouldn't mind, can you critique some of mine as well? Gallery

I don't really have any preference on what you critique, so have at whatever piece(s) you feel like doing or can immediately see problems with. ^^

Thank you very much for the opportunity! :mrgreen:
First, may I ask you something? Where do you get these models from? Or do you make them yourself? http://fav.me/daez9er I'm starting to think of making background art. ' u '

I'd like to recommend this for everyone this compilation I've done: https://1drv.ms/f/s!Ao4qLLCk2VwLgU_K0sSmtQlLHJY5
Please don't resubmit this anywhere, there are a lot of tutorials here I don't know who to credit for ;;;;;;

Well, first off, I think you can start with studying color arrangements to make your pictures more epic. Play around a little and don't be afraid to risk! Here are some of the tutorials I use:
http://glitchedpuppet.deviantart.com/ar ... 6970&qo=16
http://aquasixio.deviantart.com/art/Tut ... -345468329

This picture pretty much shows that you understand that the mountains and everything that's far away should be merged with the background color. That is good, but I miss a bit of depth and shades on your artwork.

I'm not sure of the style you intend to work with, but I always say that realistic anatomy fits with everything and it's WAY better to start working in realistic rather than starting with stylized -- it will help you a lot!
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Sayuui wrote:First, may I ask you something? Where do you get these models from? Or do you make them yourself? http://fav.me/daez9er I'm starting to think of making background art. ' u '
Ahh, I don't really know how to use 3D programs so every background I've done so far is drawn from scratch. ^^ You could try SketchUp or Blender. (Both are free and used by at least a few of the BG artists on here.)
Sayuui wrote:I'd like to recommend this for everyone this compilation I've done: https://1drv.ms/f/s!Ao4qLLCk2VwLgU_K0sSmtQlLHJY5
Please don't resubmit this anywhere, there are a lot of tutorials here I don't know who to credit for ;;;;;;
DANG! That's a lot of tutorials! I'll definitely be taking a look through them, thanks!!
Sayuui wrote:Well, first off, I think you can start with studying color arrangements to make your pictures more epic. Play around a little and don't be afraid to risk! Here are some of the tutorials I use:
http://glitchedpuppet.deviantart.com/ar ... 6970&qo=16
http://aquasixio.deviantart.com/art/Tut ... -345468329
Thank you for the suggestion, I'll be checking these out as well! (The turtle one is such an interesting way to look at things! O.O)
Sayuui wrote:That is good, but I miss a bit of depth and shades on your artwork.
I get this a lot, I think it's become a really bad habit for me. >< I'll try working on it more!
Sayuui wrote:I'm not sure of the style you intend to work with, but I always say that realistic anatomy fits with everything and it's WAY better to start working in realistic rather than starting with stylized -- it will help you a lot!
I'm not quite sure where I want to go with my style either, but I think you're right! I initially started off drawing unrealistically, so it has been a bit hard to get to more realistic proportions. I'll keep on trying for it and doing studies, though!


Thank you very much for your critique and advice, it's been a big help!

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This is an interesting idea. Would you look at my gallery too, please?
I know the anatomy on the latest drawing is a bit off, though, since I stopped drawing for over a month and now need to remember all the tricks again. XP
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Hey, this is really cool of you, would you mind taking a look at some of the stuff I tossed in here? https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2al6 ... lJPeVJGdUU

That sketch one is still in progress, I have a couple more characters to put in on the right-hand side so it looks kinda empty right now.

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Woah, shit is starting to get serious! @ 0 @;;;;;;
robovelociraptor wrote:Thank you very much for your critique and advice, it's been a big help!
You're welcome! keep studying realistic anatomy and you'll find what you love the most! I should be studying it myself. I've sticked with manga style but I totally should be studying as well, it sure helps a lot. ' u '
CSV wrote:This is an interesting idea. Would you look at my gallery too, please?
I know the anatomy on the latest drawing is a bit off, though, since I stopped drawing for over a month and now need to remember all the tricks again. XP
Thank you. =)
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Do you notice that they look pretty much the same? They’re all half-body drawings, the characters have all the same expression, and that’s why. I see a lack of experimenting on your art. Try drawing characters on different ages, with weapons, different poses, coloring experiment! It sounds like a pain in the beginning, but that’s what retains you from getting bored with art.
Also, I will recommend you click the tutorials compilation I put on robovelociraptor’s reply, I’ll keep updating it as I find new tutorials. There are not only tutorials there, there are many pose references too! I hope you enjoy!
I would also say you should study female anatomy. I guess you’re aware, so that’s all. ^^
DVXRedstar wrote: Hey, this is really cool of you, would you mind taking a look at some of the stuff I tossed in here? https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2al6 ... lJPeVJGdUU

That sketch one is still in progress, I have a couple more characters to put in on the right-hand side so it looks kinda empty right now.
Well, to be honest, I don’t know much you could improve on your art, seriously. @ - @ Your anatomy is pretty good, but it can still be improved. Your composition can be improved as well
I guess that experimenting more, just like I told everyone, would do you a great favor. Especially for the coloring, since you’ve only been working with cell shade from what I can see. ^^
The only thing I have to say is about the green hair guy picture. You could have given his face a lot more depth just like you did with the others. Besides, I think something is bothering me… Did you try flipping the image and seeing if there are any mistakes? ‘ – ‘
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Hello Hello !
checked your DA , You got some awesome works , will take me some time to view all your uploads but I've already found a new background for my phone if you don't mind xD

so , here I am to request critiques on my works , sadly I'm super lazy and tend to draw less than most of people I guess , some times get hyped and start drawing everyday for few weeks or a month, finishing 2-3 works, then drop it and start programming again and go back to drawing few months after ! at least i removed writing music form this list xD

Would you mind to check my DA ? http://sinaazad.deviantart.com/gallery/

also i'm working on this as a base for a 3d model : viewtopic.php?f=54&t=35468&start=15#p426456

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This is pretty awesome! I'd love to have some feedback on my art! Almost nobody comments on it outside of a few friends :'D

http://truefaiterman.deviantart.com/gallery/

Don't be afraid to be completely merciless. Your gallery looks really good, and I can see your feedback is well-thought and really well explained, too!
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Thank you for the tips! I do agree I need to work on more dynamic poses. Maybe start adding backgrounds too. OTL Backgrounds are evil.
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*A* ! Thank you so much for all the very nice feedback! I'll try to make the lineart darker <3

I actually don't even follow Yamio? and I didn't know our styles were similar ; v ;
I'm a bit sad hearing that. I'll work on developing a more unique style then Q v Q </3

Ahh I see wat u mean with the colours * - * !! I'll def try to work on picking different colours <3 Thank you!! <3 <3

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Thank you for looking over my stuff! :)

And yeah, I've always wanted to get around to doing soft shading, I just have no idea what I want to try it on haha. I actually don't flip my images as often as I should, I know it's something that I need to do more often so I can catch more mistakes.

What do you mean by composition, though? I don't really know a ton of artistic terms, I've just drawn from references and learn as I go.

Also, I have a question about lineart. I just lineart in black, but I know other people use different types of colors. Is there any way I should go about picking a color for lineart that would work compliment the art?

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SinaAzad wrote:Hello Hello !
checked your DA , You got some awesome works , will take me some time to view all your uploads but I've already found a new background for my phone if you don't mind xD

so , here I am to request critiques on my works , sadly I'm super lazy and tend to draw less than most of people I guess , some times get hyped and start drawing everyday for few weeks or a month, finishing 2-3 works, then drop it and start programming again and go back to drawing few months after ! at least i removed writing music form this list xD

Would you mind to check my DA ? http://sinaazad.deviantart.com/gallery/

also i'm working on this as a base for a 3d model : viewtopic.php?f=54&t=35468&start=15#p426456

Thanks In Advance !
Thank you!! Of course I don't mind, it is an absolute honor when someone says they're using one of my drawings as a wallpaper, totally makes my day! <3333

About your dA...I would say the same thing I said to CSV. It looks pretty repetitive. You should try drawing half bodies, full bodies, and vary a lot more. Besides, you're in a pretty good level and you should priorize creating instead of copying drawings that already exist, since creating your own style is important and takes pretty long for an artist. Besides, you can follow the same tips I’ve given to purrsephonekitten about color. You can give a lot more depth to your shading by using palletes (just don’t get addicted to them) and creating a pallete before you start drawing. Your drawings are still shallowly shaded. I hope I could be useful somehow! ^^
truefaiterman wrote: This is pretty awesome! I'd love to have some feedback on my art! Almost nobody comments on it outside of a few friends :'D

http://truefaiterman.deviantart.com/gallery/

Don't be afraid to be completely merciless. Your gallery looks really good, and I can see your feedback is well-thought and really well explained, too!
Woah, you are brave @ - @;;;;;
Well, unlike most of people who asked me for criticism, you have a good notion of color, and you give everything a lot of depth. The only thing I miss in you general painting is general plan distinguishing in your coloring, and it’s still a matter of contrast. The best example I can give is this piece: http://truefaiterman.deviantart.com/art ... -617363249
The character’s shades are pretty deep, but you need the expectators’ attention to be focused on her. It is visually more confortable to leave the background’s color a little more lightened and faded and the shades a little softer. It’s somehow more photographic, and you can also use field blurs to make the attention of your piece focused on the girl. I’m using an example from my favorite artist for that:
http://rosuuri.deviantart.com/art/Skele ... -504565764
As you can see, the color contrast between the trees in the background and the plan where the caracters sit is very deep. The trees in the background merge a lot with the sky’s color, which apparently is whitish-yellow, and she gradually uses lighter, yellowish red tones to reach the background color.
You can still follow the hint of converting your drawing to grayscale and seeing how much depth you need to put or take from your colors.
Also, I would suggest you to take care with the color tones you use for skin. They are pretty earthy/dirty tones. This is the best example:
http://truefaiterman.deviantart.com/art ... -618511199
I’d take this as a great example of what skin tones to use: http://sakimichan.deviantart.com/gallery/ and here’s a tanned skin character! http://sakimichan.deviantart.com/art/Ni ... -609636361 she has still got many orange tones on her skin.
Also, avoid randomly mixing colors in your drawing. The colors that appear are normally reflected from a source of light, and that source of light can either be another object or the sky light. I hope I was useful here! ^^
CSV wrote:Thank you for the tips! I do agree I need to work on more dynamic poses. Maybe start adding backgrounds too. OTL Backgrounds are evil.
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Not all backgrounds are evil, it will be great if you find out what kind of background you love drawing!
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purrsephonekitten wrote:*A* ! Thank you so much for all the very nice feedback! I'll try to make the lineart darker <3

I actually don't even follow Yamio? and I didn't know our styles were similar ; v ;
I'm a bit sad hearing that. I'll work on developing a more unique style then Q v Q </3

Ahh I see wat u mean with the colours * - * !! I'll def try to work on picking different colours <3 Thank you!! <3 <3
Oh great, just keep not following her hahahaha xD good luck on that! Also, don’t feel sad if your style is similar to someone else, as long as you are still developing your own <3
DVXRedstar wrote:Thank you for looking over my stuff! :)

And yeah, I've always wanted to get around to doing soft shading, I just have no idea what I want to try it on haha. I actually don't flip my images as often as I should, I know it's something that I need to do more often so I can catch more mistakes.

What do you mean by composition, though? I don't really know a ton of artistic terms, I've just drawn from references and learn as I go.

Also, I have a question about lineart. I just lineart in black, but I know other people use different types of colors. Is there any way I should go about picking a color for lineart that would work compliment the art?
Composition is how you place your elements in your drawing. Great compositions can make pictures more epic. ^^
I use this criteria to pick colors for my lineart: I pick the deepest shade color of an element (the skin, for example), and find a deeper color of my choice to color the lineart. It can either be more saturated or less saturated, according to my preference. Don’t be afraid to pick a much darker color, since the lineart is a very thin element in your drawing. I hope it helps!
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Thank you!! Of course I don't mind, it is an absolute honor when someone says they're using one of my drawings as a wallpaper, totally makes my day! <3333

About your dA...I would say the same thing I said to CSV. It looks pretty repetitive. You should try drawing half bodies, full bodies, and vary a lot more. Besides, you're in a pretty good level and you should prioritize creating instead of copying drawings that already exist, since creating your own style is important and takes pretty long for an artist. Besides, you can follow the same tips I’ve given to purrsephonekitten about color. You can give a lot more depth to your shading by using palletes (just don’t get addicted to them) and creating a pallete before you start drawing. Your drawings are still shallowly shaded. I hope I could be useful somehow! ^^

Thank you for putting time and giving critique on my works , I will try to work on half and full bodies from now on and try this pallet shading to see what the difference is . ^_^
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