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Writing Tip: Writing HORROR

#1 Post by OokamiKasumi » Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:16 pm

Writing HORROR
When writing a Horror story, one must begin with a Monster. The most terrifying of course, are the ones you don’t notice, or refuse to notice. The ones right next to you.
“The most dangerous werewolves are the ones that are hairy on the inside.”
A Company of Wolves
Making a MONSTER
Think, who are the people that walk right up to you every day – and you let them?
• Your neighbors
• Your co-workers
• Your friends
• Your lover
• Your parents
• Your siblings
• Your children

Now imagine if one of them was a man-slaughtering or even man-eating Monster?

In reality, it happens all the time. They’re known as Psychopaths.
Psychopaths cannot be understood in terms of antisocial rearing or development. They are simply morally depraved individuals who represent the "monsters" in our society. They are unstoppable and untreatable predators whose violence is planned, purposeful and emotionless.
-- http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/psychopath_2.htm
Not only that, they’re COMMON. The American Psychiatric Association estimate that 1 in about 25-30 people are Psychopaths. Do you know more than 30 people? Check your Friends list. Check your email address book. Check your phone contacts. According to statistics, for every 30 people you know at least 1 is a Psychopath – an actual monster.

How's that for scary?

The Psychopaths’ weakness, however, is that they’re actually pretty easy to spot by their behavior patterns. Here’s a checklist:
20 Traits of a Psychopath
1. Glibness and Superficial Charm
– Smooth-talking, engaging and slick. (They talk, and talk, and talk...without ever really saying anything. They also frequently mix-up their vocabulary.)

2. Grandiose Self-Worth
– Greatly inflated idea of one's abilities and self-esteem, arrogance and a sense of superiority. (Pride is one of the few emotions they can actually feel, even if they've done nothing to earn it.)

3. Needs Stimulation/Prone to Boredom
– An excessive need for new, exciting stimulation and risk-taking. (Attention-seeking even to the point of provoking fights just to keep the focus on themselves.)

4. Pathological Lying
– When moderate: shrewd, crafty, sly and clever; when extreme: deceptive, deceitful, underhanded and unscrupulous. (When caught, they'll lie even more to cover their lies.)

5. Manipulative
– Uses deceit and deception to cheat others for personal gain. (They have only one agenda: themselves.)

6. No Guilt/Remorse
-- no feelings or concern for losses, pain and suffering of others, cold-hearted and unempathic. (Love, Affection, and most importantly, Compassion are things they simply cannot feel -- or respond to.)

7. Emotional Poverty
– Limited range or depth of feelings; interpersonal coldness. (They are only capable of feeling 5 emotions: Pride, Hate, Greed, Fear, Amusement.)

8. Lacks Empathy
– A lack of feelings toward others; cold, contemptuous and inconsiderate. (I repeat: Love, Affection, and most importantly, Compassion are things they simply cannot feel -- or respond to.)

9. Parasitic Lifestyle
– Intentional, manipulative, selfish, and exploitative financial dependence on others. (They prefer the easy route, and it's much easier to mooch off of other people, or just plain steal, than it is to work for it.)

10. Poor Behavioral Controls
– Expressions of negative feelings, verbal abuse and inappropriate expressions of anger. (Since they can only feel 5 emotions, they can only Respond with those 5 emotions: Pride, Hate, Greed, Fear, Amusement. Anything else is an Act.)

11. Promiscuity
– Brief, superficial relations, numerous affairs and an indiscriminate choice of sexual partners. (They literally don't care who, or what, they sleep with because sex is limited to strictly physical sensation. They can't feel any of the emotions that make sex special, such as Love or Affection -- but they know You do, and will happily use it against you.)

12. No Realistic Long-Term Goals
– Inability or constant failure to develop and accomplish long-term plans. (To make a long-term goal, one must have a passion for that goal. The only emotions they can feel passion with are Pride, Greed, Amusement, Fear, and Hate, which is why they can be unusually persistent if they are angered.)

13. Impulsiveness
– Behaviors lacking reflection or planning and done without considering consequences. (Greed / Amusement / Pride + extremely short attention spans = stupid stunts.)

14. Irresponsible
– Repeated failure to fulfill or honor commitments and obligations. (If they think they can get away with it, they will Try to get away with it.)

15. Fails to Accept Responsibility for Own Behavior
– Denial of responsibility and an attempt to manipulate others through this. (When caught, they will ALWAYS blame someone or something else. They are incapable of feeling bad about their actions because the emotions needed to feel Remorse or Guilt, such as affection or compassion, are Missing. However, Fear they definitely feel, so they will do everything in their power to avoid Punishment.)

16. Many Short-Term Marital Relationships
– Lack of commitment to a long-term relationship. (Love, Affection, and most importantly, Compassion are things they simply cannot feel, so relationships happen out of Greed. In other words, they only form attachments to those they can Use. When they can't be used any more, they leave.)

17. Early Behavior Problems
– A variety of dysfunctional and unacceptable behaviors before age thirteen.

18. Juvenile Delinquency
– Criminal behavioral problems between the ages of 13-18.

19. Revocation of Conditional Release
– Violating probation or other conditional release because of technicalities. (If they think they can get away with it, they will Try to get away with it.)

20. Criminal Versatility
– Diversity of criminal offenses, whether or not the individual has been arrested or convicted. (If one trick stops working they'll happily try another.)

For more detail, read this:
http://www.lovefraud.com/01_whatsaSocio ... opath.html

Know anybody like this? I’m absolutely SURE you do. I do. In fact, I can name two from my own immediate family, one of which was actually diagnosed Sociopathic. (The difference between a Sociopath and a Psychopath? The Sociopath hasn't killed anyone -- yet.)

The real horror comes in when friends, family, and particularly lovers refuse to see the Monster staring them in the face. Why not? Those fascinated by them (their confidence, their physical attractiveness, their smiling sweet-talking charm…) simply will not listen to reason, even when warned by those they say they trust, those who have seen the psychopath in action. This is particularly true with Women ‘in love’ with such monsters.

Why won’t they listen? Because they don’t want to.

The psychopath goes out of their way to make the people they consider their possessions (friends, co-workers, family members, lovers…) their victims feel "special” and most importantly: needed. And they’re good at it.

These Monsters are so good at pretending to be exactly what their victims want them to be, (spouse, lover, best friend, parent...) their victims refuse to believe it even when the evidence is staring them in the face. Even when they have been shown point blank that everything they have been told are lies they still refuse to see the truth – that it’s only a matter of time before the Monster eats them.

They want the illusion that the Monster made for them; “I love you,” “I need you,” “I’m the only one who will ever accept you as you are,” even if they only see that illusion for two short weeks right after the Monster does terrible things to them.
Take a look at Ted Bundy; my friend's mother once went on a double-date with him and claimed he was the nicest person. His mother said he was the "best son any mother could have." Bundy was also apparently quite good-looking, which made him even more dangerous.
-- http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/psychopath_2.htm
What exactly do these Monsters do to convince their victims to remain victims? Here’s a list:
Lavish flattery
-- They tell them all the things they want to hear.

Impressive-sounding Credentials
-- They use name-dropping, detailed resumes, or other credentials to sound impressive. However, when investigated, their information is exaggerated and/or completely false.

Trustworthy on the surface
-- They pay back initial loans, or favors, or appear to be unselfishly helping others. Once they are believed they drop everything. “Loan? What loan?”

Lies that sound like the Truth
-- When small inconsistencies or unexplained loose ends come up in their stories, they glibly provide explanations that sound plausible, often using a thick coating of meaningless chit-chat to distract their listener away from the their initial question.

Intense eye contact
-- A "predatory stare"—unblinking, fixated, and emotionless that’s often mistaken for a sign of empathy, or rapt attention. It’s not. It’s an intimidation technique.

Loving Isolation
-- They slowly and subtly separate their victims from those who may question their plans. "No one loves; knows you; trusts you, better than I do."
-- http://www.lovefraud.com/02_howToSpotAc ... rtist.html
So…! Now you know how your monster thinks, what they do, how they do it, and how easily they can fool the people closest to them. You also have their potential victims; those who refuse to see the evidence right in front of their eyes, “He’s never done anything to me?” or worse, those helping them hide their deeds. “I walked into a door. I tripped on the stairs.” "He didn't mean it, it was an accident."

All you need now is a Costume to wrap them in, such as:
• Vampire
• Werewolf
• Sorcerer
• Demon
• Witch
• Mad Scientist
• Ancient god whose seal was accidentally broken…

All that’s left is to research the mythical monster of your choice. Once you wrap this costume around the psychopathic personality you’ll have a monster worthy of any Horror story you could possible think of. Even better, it’s realistic. After all, there is nothing more frightening than Reality.

What’s next? A place for Terrible Deeds to happen.

A PLACE for Horror

Coming up with a place for Horror to happen is easy. The scariest places for terrible things to happen are the places we go to daily: school, work, the grocery store, our own homes… Think of all the close-by, but out of sight areas terrible things can happen in while people walk right past the door:

• Empty classrooms
• School boiler room
• Principal’s office
• Janitor’s office
• Apartment building boiler room
• Apartment building laundry room
• Apartment storage sheds
• Stock room in a grocery store
• Store manager’s office
• Office records and filing room
• Empty board room
• Public toilet stall
• Attic
• Basement
• Kitchen
• Bedroom
• Bathroom

Any place just out of casual sight can be the stage for a Terrible Deed, or two. Of course, abandoned buildings, crumbling castles, derelict factories, dark alleys, and dingy clubs with backrooms will also work.

Now you need, a Terrible Deed, or even better, a history of terrible deeds that have yet to come to light.

ACTS of Horror

This is particularly easy. Read or watch the News. You can also go to Google News and type: ‘murder’ in the search bar. There, now you have all the terrible deeds you could possible use.

A Motive?

Monsters don’t need motives to do their deeds. If the opportunity presents itself, they do it. In fact, Impulsiveness is a trademark of their kind. Sometimes it’s simple Greed; someone has something they want so they take it, or they destroy it just to make the one who did have it suffer from its loss. Sometimes it's Pride; someone called them on their lies, or got more attention than they did, so they trash that person's credibility, usually with Lies. Amusement is often the trigger for bullying, especially if their target cannot fight back.

Any one of the 5 emotions they feel; Greed, Hate, Pride, Fear, and Amusement, can trigger an Impulse to Do Something -- usually terrible.

No, Monsters don't need a motive. However, if they’re caught, they have thousands of excuses, and all of them begin with: “It wasn’t my fault...!” because Fear is something they definitely feel.

ALL monsters enjoy causing suffering; mentally, emotionally, financially… No matter how much they say they don’t, they do. You can see it in their smile. They find it vastly entertaining to watch desperate people do desperate things; especially if they’re the ones who triggered it.

And desperate people pushed into a corner will do desperate things. Ordinary, normal people can and do commit terrible deeds when they feel they have no other option. Normal, ordinary not-psychopathic people will kill, lie, cheat, and steal in self-defense, and to defend those they love.

How can you tell the difference between an ordinary person and a Monster? Remorse and Regret.

A normal person will Regret that they caused pain to someone else. They will feel genuinely horrified that someone was hurt by their actions, or worse: died, and for a very long time, possibly their entire lives.

A psychopath; a Monster, is physically incapable of feeling either Regret or Remorse. Instead, they dive straight into Anger and blame. “It’s all their fault! If they hadn’t done such and such, this wouldn’t have happened!”

Okay! You have a Monster, you have a list of horrific acts, and you have places for said acts to happen. Now you need someone to uncover and defeat the monster; a Hero.

The HERO

The best heroes for Horror tales are those that seem completely helpless against the monster, the kind of people no one will believe when they say that they’ve discovered a monster in their midst.

Someone with:
• A history of lying (after making accusations they couldn’t prove)
• A history of violence (defending themselves against bullies)
• A history of mental illness (for seeing the world differently)
• A history of delinquency (frequent absenteeism at school or their job)
• A history of being different (Goth, nerd, anime fan, an artist, a poet )
• A history of seeking isolation (introverts, bookworms, the studious)

Monsters love making victims out of these people because of their isolation or because their trustworthiness has already been destroyed. Monsters know that despite any evidence they might present, these people will never be believed.

So, how does such a Hero defeat a Monster? The same way one does on the playground.

You know how in grade school they tell you that the only way to defeat a bully is to stand up to one, and don’t back down, in other words; overpower them into backing off? On the playground, this becomes; “hit them back twice as hard as they hit you,” preferably with a pack of friends behind you (to keep the bully’s friends from jumping you,) but it can also mean, “get an adult to stop them,” preferably with expulsion. This technique actually works – until you reach adulthood anyway.

Anyone that ever told you to ignore a bully never dealt with a real one, a psychopath. Ignoring bullies doesn’t work. In fact, it can make them downright dangerous. Every last one of them is narcissistic; all attention MUST be on them at all times. It’s why they are bullies to begin with; to get attention using the fastest and easiest means: violence. If they don’t get the attention they want, they get louder and even more aggressive. In fact, being ignored can enrage them to the point that they will chase after you. They will then go out of their way to make your life miserable in every possible way they can; above and beyond anything they might have originally done.

Don’t believe me? Check out the News reports. There are hundreds of cases of juveniles that set schoolmates’ and teachers’ houses on fire, or knifed someone at school, or pushed someone into traffic just because they were ignored.

Once adulthood is reached, fighting becomes illegal, unless there are witnesses (and video) to say you were cornered first. That’s IF you know some sort of martial art and can actually defend yourself. For the rest of us, the only way to overpower them is by calling the cops. Unfortunately, that won’t work until After physical damage has been done that the cops can gather evidence from to use against them.

The only other option for dealing with a bully is Disappear. Change your phone numbers, change your email, change the privacy settings on your Facebook, and password protect anything public that they might try to get to. Disappearing can also mean quitting the job (if that’s where the bully is,) or even moving away. The more dangerous might try to track you down, but those can be arrested.

As for Story monsters, the first rule applies: Your characters' only chance at survival should be to Overpower them and KILL THEM ALL.

Other Characters

All you really need for a Horror story is:
• a Monster
• a Trusted Friend (often a mysterious teacher-type character, but occasionally a love interest) who may, or may not survive, but they are out for the count (or just absolutely no help at all) during the climactic one on one Monster vs Hero battle scene.
• and a Hero.

All other characters tend to fall in these categories:
• Someone that Interferes with the Hero, until they become part of the body count.
• Someone that Helps the Hero, until they become part of the body count.
• A body waiting to be counted.

Anyone else is merely sprinkles on an already decorated cake.

On to the story!

The Horror STORY

The basic plot for a Horror is pretty much the same as a basic adventure plot with a few minor shifts here and there:

Act One:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
There’s a mysterious death
-- Or series of deaths.
Hero discovers Monster.
-- from evidence
Or
-- by seeing the Monster in action.

Act Two:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
All evidence disappears.
No one believes the Hero about a Monster
-- and/or they think the Hero is the killer.
Hero privately investigates Monster:
-- who/what Monster is.
-- a way to kill the Monster.
A Trusted Friend appears and reveals a way to kill the Monster.

Act Three:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Monster threatens Hero.
Hero refuses to give in to threat.
Someone close to the Hero dies.
-- Lover
-- Family member
-- Trusted Friend
-- all of the above.
Pissed off Hero gains Special Weapon and goes after Monster.
Annoyed Monster goes on killing spree.
Bodies pile up:
-- proving that the Hero is innocent of murder.
-- proving that there IS a Monster.

Act Four:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hero goes on Monster Hunt
-- with friends
Or
-- alone.
Monster is cornered and captured
-- or incapacitated.
Monster breaks free
-- or wakes up.
Monster attacks and bodies pile up.
-- Friends
Or
-- Innocent bystanders.
Wounded Hero faces off with Monster and uses Special Weapon.
Fatally wounded, Monster issues one last vague threat.
Monster dies.
Hero goes home
-- to celebrate
-- to angst
-- or dies alone in the rain.

If you want to make your story longer, or Manga style, make Four Heroes (or more) and multiply the entire plot by four, (or however many heroes you have) with all the heroes running through the plot separately and Losing their climactic battle scene. (Often done as Back-Story.)

Once all that’s done, have the Heroes discover each other (usually by being rescued,) until you’ve gathered them all together. Once they agree to become a TEAM, run through the entire plot all over again. This time, when you get to final climactic battle scene, have all the Heroes fight the monster together. The Monster takes out each of the heroes one by one, leaving one last Hero (usually the weakest) to deliver the final blow.

You don’t want to know how much manga I’ve read, and anime I’ve watched, to discover just how common this plotting pattern. Really. Off the top of my head? D-Gray Man, Naruto, Yu Yu Hakusho, Saiyuki, One-Piece… That’s just the tip of the iceberg.


SHORT Horror

The Short Horror plot is actually done a little differently from the plot I just showed you. Mainly because the characters are pared down to focus on only three: a Monster, a Hero, and a Trusted Friend. The Hero deals directly and immediately with the Monster while the Trusted Friend is usually someone completely ignorant of what’s really going on and gets caught between them. Often there are other minor characters, but those are just to raise the angst quotient by way of interference and/or body count.

Short Horror is best told entirely from ONLY the Monster’s point of view, ONLY the Hero’s point of view or ONLY the Trusted Friend’s point of view. In short: ONE point of view from beginning to end.

While there are literally thousands of variations, the Short Horror plot comes in two basic flavors. Each still has 4 Acts, but the stories are far more condensed:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hero vs Monster
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Act 1 -- The Angsty Hero
-- While Hero is recovering from trauma, something mysterious happens.
-- Against advice, Hero investigates.
-- Hero discovers monster and barely escapes.
-- Despite obvious wounds, no one believes Hero about Monster.

Act 2 -- Monster Harasses Hero
-- Letters, phone calls, dead things in the mail.
-- Accidents start happening to close friends/family.
-- Hero isolates themselves to keep friends away from Monster.

Act 3 – Escape Attempt
-- Hero runs and hides in the one place they feel absolutely safe.
-- Someone Hero trusts arrives.
-- Trusted Friend unknowingly brings the Monster with them.
Or
-- Trusted Friend is the Monster!

Act 4 – Hero vs Monster.
-- Trusted Friend interferes during fight and Monster attacks them.
-- Trusted friend finally realizes that Hero was right, but dies.
-- Angry Hero slays Monster and angsts over lost Friend.
Or
-- Hero tries to reason with Friend/Monster who he does not want to kill.
-- Monster offers a bargain: remain with Monster forever or die.
-- Hero accepts and goes off with Monster.
Or
-- Hero accepts and is devoured by Monster.
Or
-- Hero accepts then slays Monster and commits suicide to keep promise.
Or
-- Hero refuses, slays Monster, and angsts for the rest of his life.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Devil’s Bargain
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Act 1 - The Angsty Hero
-- While Hero is recovering from trauma, something mysterious happens.
-- Against advice, Hero investigates.
-- Hero discovers monster and makes a bargain with it.
-- Monster carries out bargain in the worst way possible.

Act 2 – The Bargain
-- Scared Hero tries to find way out of Bargain.
-- Scared Hero confesses, but no one believes Hero about Monster.
-- Reminders of bargain arrive: Letters, phone calls, dead things in the mail.
-- Accidents start happening to close friends.

Act 3 – Escape Attempt
-- Hero runs and hides in the one place they feel absolutely safe.
-- Someone Hero trusts arrives.
-- Trusted Friend unknowingly brings the Monster with them.
Or
-- Trusted Friend is the Monster!

Act 4 – The Bargain’s Fulfillment
Hero accepts and…
-- goes off with Monster.
-- is devoured by Monster.
-- is transformed into a Monster.
-- gives Trusted Friend to Monster for devouring.
Or
Hero refuses and…
-- Angry Monster devours Trusted Friend.
-- Angry Monster devours Hero.
-- Angry Monster devours them both.
-- Trusted Friend helps slay monster.
Or
-- Trusted Friend offers themselves in Hero’s place.
-- Trusted Friend reveals that have already traded themselves for Hero.

Note: These plot-lines are, by no means, all the variations possible!

Okay! There you have it, a Monster, a Hero, and some Stories. Everything you need to write a basic Horror.
How do you Write it?
With lots of atmospheric description, and tons of angst. Horror thrives on graphic depictions, action scenes, and remorseful (angsty) narration.

The trick to making any scene really Work is detail; also known as DESCRIPTION, but especially in Horrors and Gothics. Atmosphere is what carries those stories, and for that you need detailed depictions of the environment (weather, temperature, light conditions, darkness levels, shadows, smells, and sounds,) in addition to detailed depictions of your locations, and the characters. (Yes, the characters too!) Most especially, their Expressions. SHOW the fear, don't just say: "They were scared."

While a monster is scarier when it's Less visible, perhaps only a patch of shadow, what defines the monster's vagueness is how perfectly visible the Rest of the scene and characters are. Go watch a horror movie and look how crystal clear the characters and their immediate surroundings are compared to the monsters (at first anyway.)

Keep in mind that when you get to your climactic Hero vs Monster scene you WILL have to describe your monster in detail too, so be prepared!

As an exercise, pull out your favorite highlighter and dig out an old horror paperback that you don't mind ruining. Go to the best scenes in the book and Highlight all the sections of Description. Now, really LOOK at what was described and what words they used. THAT'S what you need to do. Take notes on what you find, and keep them close so you can add more to them later.

Detail is what will make or break your Horror story Seriously.

Enjoy!

DISCLAIMER: As with all advice, take what you can use and throw out the rest. As a multi-published author, I have been taught some fairly rigid rules on what is publishable and what is not. If my rather straight-laced (and occasionally snotty,) advice does not suit your creative style, by all means, IGNORE IT.
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Re: Writing Tip: Writing HORROR

#2 Post by crGrey » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:55 pm

Funny, I find that the most intense monster is the complete stranger, who, in an effort to get close to you, puts ITSELF in the same position you are. With intent, gains your trust, gets to know you, and you to know them (how they want you to know them).

Then, when there is almost no chance of escape; when you are at your weakest and most vulnerable, pounces. Not to kill, but to make sure that the last few minutes of your life are spent as deeply entrenched in terror, constantly wondering what went wrong and how you were so foolish.

The true monster also uses your trust in them to push away possible allies, thus ensuring your lack of potential escape options.

Then, instead of doing any of the dirty work, has set something (trap, series of people or plans, or even an ice cream truck) into motion that has no chance of being stopped, letting whoever, or whatever it is, end the character for them, so that they might saviour the moment, take their time, and have an effective withdrawl from the scene of their own, so they might set up more, for others to fall into.

The most horrific antagonist (and protagonist), to me, is the smart, calculating, expert liar with a flair for the pre-ending realization for the targeted.
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#3 Post by LVUER » Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:58 am

You forget the part that after all is over, in one corner where everybody didn't see, one limping hand suddenly shown moving, giving evidence that there's a sequel soon.
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#4 Post by OokamiKasumi » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:34 pm

crGrey wrote:Funny, I find that the most intense monster is the complete stranger, who, in an effort to get close to you, puts ITSELF in the same position you are. ... The most horrific antagonist (and protagonist), to me, is the smart, calculating, expert liar with a flair for the pre-ending realization for the targeted.
You realize, you just described a psychopathic personality, right? They make perfect monsters because they are monsters.
LVUER wrote:You forget the part that after all is over, in one corner where everybody didn't see, one limping hand suddenly shown moving, giving evidence that there's a sequel soon.
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#5 Post by crGrey » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:55 pm

I would also say, however, that not all psychopaths are monsters, because they have and use self-control.
Also, not all monsters are psychopaths, for they are a product of nature, or of people.
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#6 Post by OokamiKasumi » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:30 am

crGrey wrote:...not all psychopaths are monsters, because they have and use self-control.
Of course they exercise self control! In fact, it's their self-control that makes them such Successful human predators. They wouldn't be so successful at walking right up to the victim they plan to kill, or manipulating people into giving them money, a roof over their heads, sex, a job (you think they Don't lie on their resumes?) if they didn't have the self control it takes to Plan and then Carry Out their goals.
crGrey wrote:Also, not all monsters are psychopaths...
Quite true, as I said in my essay, normal people can and will do terrible things if pushed into a corner.
crGrey wrote:...they are a product of nature, or of people.
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Psychopaths are a product of nature, NOT people. They are BORN missing the essential emotion: compassion, needed to be Human. Psychopaths can fake it, (the experienced ones are fantastic actors) but in truth, the hard-wiring that generates compassion in the human brain is absent in the psychopath.

You cannot Make a psychopath. A person put under extremely dire circumstances can emulate a psychopath for a certain period of time, but as soon as they are no longer under those circumstances, that behavior stops. To emulate a psychopath, one must shut down one's emotions Completely, and keep them that way -- a state utterly unnatural and extremely difficult to maintain for someone with a full range of emotions.

A good shrink can tell the difference almost instantly between someone that IS a psychopath and someone learned to act like one to survive. (Guess how I found out? Oh, have I mentioned that my dad was diagnosed a psychopath, but not until I was 18?)

All Psychopaths ARE monsters.
-- The ones that learn to adapt to human society i.e, they don't kill people or animals, (just beat them during their temper tantrums,) are called Sociopaths. This doesn't make them any less dangerous. A sociopath commonly adapts to society as a Parasite; a creature that sucks the blood, ahem...drains the financial resources of a host using superior manipulation techniques, and first-rate Acting. Their more common name name is Con Artist.

Anyway... It's clear you've missed the point of my essay.

Psychopaths make the perfect model for a kill-able monster for a Horror story. If you're writing a story where a normal person becomes a monster, then you're Not writing a Horror, you're writing a GOTHIC, and that's a Different essay. :)
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#7 Post by crGrey » Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:10 pm

I'm not going to try to change your mind, as you seem to have made it up already, but consider the following:

What do you call a person who is BORN missing those "things" that make them a psychopath (what you believe to be a condition you are born with), that neither acts on their lack of moral restrictions, who doesn't prey on society or "drain the blood" of the financial infrastructure?

I would say you don't believe such a creature to exists, as it is only natural for a psychopath to do all of those things.

And to prove your point you would ask WHY that psychopath doesn't.

The simple answer is obvious: being ABLE to act on them does not mean they WILL act on them. Acting on the urge to commit an act that qualifies you as a monster is what makes you a monster, not a condition in which you were born.

Saying all psychopaths born with conditions that make them monsters is like saying that all republicans are conservatives. It is an opinion based on a presense of proof. But it isn't true, either.

Saying that psychopaths are born is ALSO an interesting thing to say: as there are MULTIPLE differing opinions on the subject.

http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy

http://livingamongpredators.over-blog.c ... 27842.html

http://jennifercopley.suite101.com/caus ... thy-a62417

But, again, you seem to have made up your mind.
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Re: Writing Tip: Writing HORROR

#8 Post by OokamiKasumi » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:51 pm

crGrey wrote:What do you call a person who is BORN missing those "things" that make them a psychopath (what you believe to be a condition you are born with), that neither acts on their lack of moral restrictions, who doesn't prey on society or "drain the blood" of the financial infrastructure?
A high-functioning sociopath. A civilized monster.

I am afraid that you have wandered very far from the topic at hand: Writing Horror, so with all due respect, I will no longer respond to continuations on your 'defense' of psychopaths.

To sum up...
- You feel that they are only monsters if they Act that way.
- I feel that that no matter how civilized they act, a monster can not change the fact that they are still a monster. Under the right (wrong?) conditions, they will act true to their monstrous nature. A snake, even one handled by people from birth, can only ever be a snake.

Shall we agree to disagree and go back to the topic, how to write a horror story?
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Re: Writing Tip: Writing HORROR

#9 Post by Taleweaver » Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:04 am

I don't think one element has been addressed much so far:

If fighting the monster is an option, it's action.
If fighting the monster isn't an option, it's horror.

Good horror monsters cannot be fought. They may be defeated, but never by physical (or even magical) combat.

You may prevent them from arriving (Cthulhu).
You may be able to trap or trick them into a situation that will kill them (Nosferatu).
You may even be able to find them when they are sleeping or weak and murder them in that condition (Dracula).
But if you fight them, head-on, you will die. Or worse.

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#10 Post by OokamiKasumi » Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:40 pm

Taleweaver wrote:I don't think one element has been addressed much so far:
...Good horror monsters cannot be fought. They may be defeated, but never by physical (or even magical) combat.... if you fight them, head-on, you will die. Or worse.

Discuss!
Oh, good topic!
-- How to Stop the monster you've created.

For classic monsters, Research is your friend, but you Don't want it easy for your players to guess the answer either, so I suggest placing lots of Wrong (You die!) options to disguise the right one. To really make it difficult, perhaps even making the monster appear to be one type when in fact it's another?

Case in point; you can damage a Vampire with holy water, but holy water does nothing to a werewolf or a vengeful ghost.

Of course, this means that the writer will have to know how said monster is defeated Before they start writing. (You wouldn't believe how many writers Don't.)

Fun Fact: Vampires were originally Ghosts, which is why they were not visible in mirrors and cast no shadow. This is also why sunlight was damaging to them. What made them dangerous is that had a habit of possessing corpses -- which could walk in sunlight. According to early resources, it was the corpse that needed blood every three days, not the vampire. Without it, the corpse would seize up with rigor mortis and fall over.

Unfortunately, the only way to remove a vampire from a corpse was to destroy the corpse. Of course, this freed the vampire to possess another corpse. This is why freshly dead corpses were staked down into their coffins; to keep vampires from walking around in them. Of course, if a vampire had already possessed the corpse, this would stop the vampire too -- until the body decayed enough to free the vampire. One severed the head to sever the spine which prevented the body from moving and pulling free of the stakes.

Vampires were also known to possess the weak-minded, (Renfield, anyone?) This is why one is not supposed to go walking in graveyards after sunset -- in case there happened to be a newly freed vampire looking for a body to possess.
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#11 Post by crGrey » Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:40 pm

I agree that a true monster, one that will both be difficult to defeat, AND also be true horror, is one that can not be overcome by direct physical force. It is the kind of thing that needs to be overcome by using your head (out-witting), or by good luck (dumb luck?).

In the case of out-witting the monster in a horror situation you either need to give the character/s time to work out what they know, don't know, or are speculative about, OR you need them to be the kind of person that is able to think on their feet, despite the ever looming "bad end" (whichever seems most interesting to you).

In the case of giving them a chance to work it out, this usually makes for a good middle-area to your story, where character/s interact with eachother or with things to devise an escape or solution to the problem. The issue with this strategy is WHY would the monster give them the chance?
The most difficult part of it is keeping the prey trapped while maintaining an elevated tension level and having the reason for the break in immediate danger be sound. The "why"s of stopping the horror but keeping the characters involved is hard. Usually, this is where the brave characters say: "Never give up! Never surrender!" and make a case for why to stay and defeat it. Cowardly characters turn tail and run to fight another day (and are usually eaten because of it).
In most instances, the trapped character/s will realize that there is no hope of escape, or that they merely prolong the inevitable, thus they must formulate a plan of action. These plans of course, don't usually survive the first encounter...

In the case of character/s thinking on their feet, they still need to be given the opportunity to devise a plausable (not neccessarily possible) way to combat both the monster, AND the horror itself. Fighting an internal battle over the fight or flight instinct is usually a good start. A smart character who thinks on his feet survives because of past experiences or knowledge that the monster may or may not be aware of.
Because no plan survives the first encounter idea, the character/s who survive by thinking on their feet do so by modifying their plans as the situation allows, and make, I think, the best heroes.

In the case of good/random/dumb luck wining the day for the protagonists, there are MANY cliches you can use, but the best endings based on this old and tried way, is to have something happen that no one really expects can work.
The classic: "what just happened?" quote from a survivor of the horror.

A good example of this is the alien device placed in the deep forests of north america thousands of years ago and forgoten. Its job is to collect samples of species that it encounters in a large area. The device is more than adequate to take on all forms of life and survives for more than enough time to eventually encounter a moder human. The protagonist finds the device and some of its victims (including a dinosour!) then realizes that he is next on the list. After shooting it to no avail, and running from it for many hours he succumbs to exhaustion and collapses, barely aware that it finally catches him and is about to add him to the collection. Then it drops him and leaves... because unbeknownst to him, he has shed enough water weight to no longer qualify as a valid specimen...
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*edit: we might also want to cover the idea of the red-shirt; someone you kill off to prove the situation is serious/horror, and why a situation needs to involve the reader as 'horrific' so that they understand and connect with the character's reaction to a 'horror' situation.
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#12 Post by HigurashiKira » Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:32 pm

Taleweaver wrote:I don't think one element has been addressed much so far:

If fighting the monster is an option, it's action.
If fighting the monster isn't an option, it's horror.

Good horror monsters cannot be fought. They may be defeated, but never by physical (or even magical) combat.

You may prevent them from arriving (Cthulhu).
You may be able to trap or trick them into a situation that will kill them (Nosferatu).
You may even be able to find them when they are sleeping or weak and murder them in that condition (Dracula).
But if you fight them, head-on, you will die. Or worse.

Discuss!
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#13 Post by Taleweaver » Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:53 am

Another good example for the action/horror distinction: Alien/Aliens. "Alien" was horror. "Aliens" was action.

Alien: Hapless crew of a space freighter stumbles upon a wrecked spaceship. Aboard: some really weird, disgusting-looking egg-like things. (Instant yuck-moment - great for horror!) One of the eggs opens and an even MORE disgusting looking thing jumps at one of the crew, eats through his helmet (message: your technology cannot stop it) and hugs around his face, pushing a tube down his throat (more ick: combine intubation, which is uncomfortable in itself, with a sexually reproductive act, with the male as the receiving partner). Little alien grows inside the recipient's chest and finally breaks out of said chest, killing the victim, but not before he seemingly got better. Crew starts hunting for the little alien and cannot find it, while it, without the crew knowing, grows into a big alien - fast, silent, deadly, and with acid for blood - that you cannot kill and that, one by one, slaughters the crew. The last survivor finally manages to escape... or so she thinks because the alien managed to get into her escape pod, so she's now face to face with a monster she cannot kill. She manages to throw it out of the airlock, where it STILL lives (in open space) until she finally burns it with the damn jet engines.

THAT is horror.

Aliens: Space Marines enter planet that hordes and hordes of aliens have taken over. Space Marines fight aliens. Some aliens die, all space marines die because they are outnumbered. Last survivors go for the "big fat bomb" approach to kill their enemies. Hero woman faces off 1:1 against enemy leader. Heroic sacrifice makes sure the last human survivor gets away.

That is action.
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Re: Writing Tip: Writing HORROR

#14 Post by OokamiKasumi » Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:44 pm

Taleweaver wrote:"Alien" was horror.
Oh, yes it was! "Alien" is horror in its purest form.
-- Getting HR Giger to design the monster and the sets was a stroke of genius. They also used lots of atmospheric film techniques: deep shadows, dripping water, distant echoing sounds, hard cold light, and slightly unsettling camera angles.

Truthfully, the plot was very simple with all the normal 'horror house' cliches. However, the plot was also water tight -- that is what made it perfect. They had a "brick wall" in place for all the usual solutions:

> They couldn't just call for help.
-- They were so far off the beaten path, communication would take weeks to reach anyone -- IF anyone happened to be out there.
> They couldn't just leave.
-- Outside was absolute vacuum.
-- There was a strong possibility that using the tiny escape pods would mean being lost forever in deep space.
> They couldn't simply wait in a safe corner for rescue.
-- There was no safe corner.
-- IF rescue even found them, it would not find them in time.
> There was no Deus Ex Machina waiting in the wings.
-- There were no Silver Bullets, or magical tools available to kill the monster.
> Then there was the Plot Twist:
-- Someone did it to them on purpose.

The only option is escape. However, escaping literally means throwing themselves out a window and hoping someone will catch them before they die -- which is why no one wanted to do it.

What made "Alien" such a great horror is not what they did: they used a basic and common "Trapped in a Haunted House with a Monster" plot. What made it so fantastic is How they did it.

They used an Uncommon setting.
-- Sci-fi horror had been done before, but this time the sets and monsters were designed by an actual Horror Artist.
They used logically sound 'brick walls' to seal off any possible plot-holes. (No easy escapes.)
They created a monster that was absolutely terrifying in behavior and to look at.
They used ordinary and sympathetic characters -- then showed no mercy at all.
They had a plot twist.

"Alien" was perfect Horror.
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#15 Post by awesomeautumn » Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:28 pm

I remembered reading this delightful Cracked article, and it might be helpful to someone using a psychopathic personality type:

"First, in movies the terms "psychotic" and "sociopath" are traded more often than genital infections at Flava Flav's house. But psychotic behavior is when someone attacks the mayor because Satan appeared on a box of Crunch Berries and told them to do it. Sociopathic behavior is when someone lies, doesn't feel bad about it and can't understand why anyone else would.

People who suffer from anti-social personality disorder (the closest thing in real life to a Hollywood "sociopath") almost always come from backgrounds where they're barely given enough to eat, let alone a well-rounded cultural education. Generally speaking, they aren't charming, aren't educated, aren't even particularly bright and couldn't come up with a devious scheme to save their boring ass lives. Most of them aren't even violent."

(You can read the full Cracked article here: http://www.cracked.com/article/223_6-me ... elieve_p2/ (it's #2), and they site a more serious informational page: http://lifeloom.com/III1Wasserman.htm)

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