Music in VNs-Does Anyone Find It Too Distracting?

Questions, skill improvement, and respectful critique involving music, sound, and movies.
Message
Author
User avatar
Obscura
Eileen-Class Veteran
Posts: 1431
Joined: Fri Mar 09, 2012 6:58 pm
Projects: Coming Out On Top
Location: United States
Contact:

Music in VNs-Does Anyone Find It Too Distracting?

#1 Post by Obscura » Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:09 pm

I'm just wondering if anybody else turns off the music in all visual novels when they play.

It doesn't matter how good the music is, I often find I can't focus if on the game if there's background music. Incidentally, I do this for ALL video games I play, not just VNs.

I don't know if it's just a weird quirk of mine, or what. Do the majority of you like having music in the background?
Coming Out On Top - An Adult Gay Dating Sim
website

User avatar
Sharm
Miko-Class Veteran
Posts: 558
Joined: Mon May 07, 2012 4:39 pm
Projects: Twin Crowns, Weather Wizard
Contact:

Re: Music in VNs-Does Anyone Find It Too Distracting?

#2 Post by Sharm » Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:32 pm

I do that too. I need a lot of focus when I read and while the music can be okay sometimes, everyone in the house wondering what I'm up to isn't.
Works in Progress: Twin Crowns | Weather Wizard

User avatar
LVUER
King of Lolies
Posts: 4538
Joined: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:57 pm
Completed: R.S.P
Location: Bandung, West Java, Indonesia
Contact:

Re: Music in VNs-Does Anyone Find It Too Distracting?

#3 Post by LVUER » Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:52 pm

It is said that people with perfect pitch will have difficulties to listen to music and read at the same time, but not for those without it.

I don't find music too distracting when I play VN, in fact, sometimes it sets the mood and I like it.
"Double the princesses, quadruple the fun!" - Haken Browning (SRW-OG Endless Frontier)

DeviantArt Account
MoeToMecha Blog (under construction)
Lolicondria Blog (under construction) <- NSFW

User avatar
Nuxill
Veteran
Posts: 464
Joined: Sat Sep 25, 2010 4:50 pm
Projects: No Friend
Tumblr: nuxill
itch: nuxill
Contact:

Re: Music in VNs-Does Anyone Find It Too Distracting?

#4 Post by Nuxill » Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:08 pm

I like a little bit of music when I read VNs. If used properly it can really add to the mood and sound effects add to the immersion, at least for me. I say add music in and if a person doesn't want to listen to it then they have the option of turning it off. Having an option is better than nothing at all.

User avatar
fleet
Eileen-Class Veteran
Posts: 1554
Joined: Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:25 pm
Deviantart: fleetp
Contact:

Re: Music in VNs-Does Anyone Find It Too Distracting?

#5 Post by fleet » Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:17 pm

I didn't inlcude music in the first few VNs I released and received complaints that there wasn't any.
Before that I hadn't noticed that the VNs I had played contained music (when I replayed them I took special effort to notice the music). Now I do pay attention to the music.
I suspect most people prefer music in VNs.
All of my VNs are at http://wolflore.net NOTE: Downloads are now working.
Some are at http://www.the-new-lagoon.com. NSFW
Poorly done hand-drawn art is still poorly done art. Be a Poser (or better yet, use DAZ Studio 3D) - dare to be different.

User avatar
Auro-Cyanide
ssǝʇunoƆ ʇɹ∀
Posts: 3059
Joined: Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:02 am
Completed: http://auro-cyanide.tumblr.com/visualnovels
Projects: Athena
Organization: Cyanide Tea
Tumblr: auro-cyanide
Deviantart: Auro-Cyanide
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Contact:

Re: Music in VNs-Does Anyone Find It Too Distracting?

#6 Post by Auro-Cyanide » Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:13 pm

I only have problems reading and listening if the music has lyrics. If it's just music it tends to be just atmospheric. In games with gameplay I often use the music as cues as to what is going on and when I had to watch out for enemies. In VNs it helps to really set the mood. The good thing is that there is an option to turn it off so people who can't concentrate with it can do so :)

User avatar
Nuxill
Veteran
Posts: 464
Joined: Sat Sep 25, 2010 4:50 pm
Projects: No Friend
Tumblr: nuxill
itch: nuxill
Contact:

Re: Music in VNs-Does Anyone Find It Too Distracting?

#7 Post by Nuxill » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:27 am

Auro-Cyanide wrote:I only have problems reading and listening if the music has lyrics. If it's just music it tends to be just atmospheric. In games with gameplay I often use the music as cues as to what is going on and when I had to watch out for enemies. In VNs it helps to really set the mood. The good thing is that there is an option to turn it off so people who can't concentrate with it can do so :)
Yeah music with lyrics belong at the beginning and end of a game imo, unless you're going to pull something like 4kids and have "The Time Has Come" while Ash is running away from Pikachu. That scene broke my ten year old heart and I'm pretty sure the cheesy music helped. :lol:

Also having a unique song for a main theme or for a specific character or scene can make that song popular with the players. How many times have you heard a track from a video game and the memories came flooding back to you?

Endorphin
Veteran
Posts: 366
Joined: Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:52 am
Location: Germany
Contact:

Re: Music in VNs-Does Anyone Find It Too Distracting?

#8 Post by Endorphin » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:33 am

I only have problems reading and listening if the music has lyrics.
^ What Auro said - can't concentrate when there are lyrics.

But other then that I just hate my games mute.
Annoys me.
I need my background music and if it isn't in the game I start humming and this is distracting. v_v
<= When I notice this I usually start playing music from outsite the game (which normally doesn't fit the mood.)
Also, I think that music and sounds are as important as the art - it's supportive for the display of the story. It's expressive. Really, there's so much potential going to waste.

Never knew there were people who disliked it, but maybe LVUER is right and it has something to do with being more musical than I am. :'D
I just feel uncomfortable by removing the music as it's like removing the art - it still works and can be really enjoyable, but I'm removing a part of the game the creator considert essential. v_v
<= That, and just disliking sitting in a silent room (if the game had BGS at least it would be fine)
After all, you got to play the game like you want to.
It would be even more depressing when you just skip through dialouge boxed without getting the message~

- R.

PS. I remembered turning down music once~
It was an RPG and the music was not only choosen badly but the quality was also horrible - removing the sound was the only way to protect my sanity. x_X
(And I always want to turn down the sound in horror games - they're scary. But it's no fun without.)

User avatar
Zylinder
Veteran
Posts: 320
Joined: Sat May 07, 2011 4:30 am
Contact:

Re: Music in VNs-Does Anyone Find It Too Distracting?

#9 Post by Zylinder » Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:38 am

I'm fine with ambient music, but I turn it off when it's loud and rock-ish, to the point where I can't read properly without being distracted. Loud/rock music is more suitable for RPGs, at least for me, because I don't have to read too much when I'm fighting monsters, etc. VNs are mostly reading though, so invasive, action music tends to disturb my concentration.

User avatar
nyaatrap
Crawling Chaos
Posts: 1824
Joined: Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:37 am
Location: Kimashi Tower, Japan
Contact:

Re: Music in VNs-Does Anyone Find It Too Distracting?

#10 Post by nyaatrap » Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:56 am

Only time when I turn off bgm is when a story is too boring and sleepy and can't keep my concentration without metal music. Then turn it off and listen metal while playing the game instead. It may be because I'm Japanese who is "watching" text more than "reading".

User avatar
Ziassan
Veteran
Posts: 231
Joined: Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:14 pm
Contact:

Re: Music in VNs-Does Anyone Find It Too Distracting?

#11 Post by Ziassan » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:50 am

The strange thing is that you can turn off music but not sprites/art. I play with both "on", but if you think about it, having art moving while you're trying to concentrate on the text should be as disturbing as music. Probably even more because it's the same senses (view) that is used (unlike for music).

Personaly I think a VN is both text, sound/music and art, I wouldn't play a VN without sound/music (unless it's an experimental thing). But indeed music sometimes requires a little time of accommodation/ some perseverance, and it pays after.

Hmm... for instance Umineko without the music wouldn't be Umineko. But in some like Ever17 it's really not necessary (it could have, but... well).
Image
I like to create things. Mostly on the music side.
http://soundcloud.com/ziassan

User avatar
HumbertTheHorse
Regular
Posts: 135
Joined: Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:06 pm
Projects: ... ...
Location: USA
Contact:

Re: Music in VNs-Does Anyone Find It Too Distracting?

#12 Post by HumbertTheHorse » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:18 am

I turn the bgm way down. 9 out of 10 times it is just to repetitive and the melody is, well, not always there. And this is from someone listens to orchestral soundtracks quite often. Bad music hurts the brain you see. Now AAA console games often have lovely background music. Often the best part of the game. In short, I don't think it is a matter of bias but quality.

User avatar
Auro-Cyanide
ssǝʇunoƆ ʇɹ∀
Posts: 3059
Joined: Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:02 am
Completed: http://auro-cyanide.tumblr.com/visualnovels
Projects: Athena
Organization: Cyanide Tea
Tumblr: auro-cyanide
Deviantart: Auro-Cyanide
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Contact:

Re: Music in VNs-Does Anyone Find It Too Distracting?

#13 Post by Auro-Cyanide » Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:38 pm

Ziassan wrote:The strange thing is that you can turn off music but not sprites/art. I play with both "on", but if you think about it, having art moving while you're trying to concentrate on the text should be as disturbing as music. Probably even more because it's the same senses (view) that is used (unlike for music).
But because it's the same sense you can only concentrate on one thing at a time. You are either reading or you are looking at the art. When you play a VN you switch between these depending on what you consider to be most important at the time. Music however is using a completely different snese and so you can get two different streams of information being filtered to your brain. I for instance can't concentrate on reading with music that has lyrics because my brain is trying to figure out what both mean and I end up getting neither. I would say people who get distracted by music are simply attuned to trying to understand it as information instead of having it be ambient. I find it very disconcerting to play in silence, so I like my background music, but it should be background music and not try to override my visual senses unless it's at important moments when I'm meant to pay more attention to it, like a door slamming. Good sound design is like all good design, it's invisible (or silent as it where) :)

User avatar
redeyesblackpanda
Eileen-Class Veteran
Posts: 1006
Joined: Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:26 am
Projects: Eternal Memories, plot bunnies that won't die.
Organization: HellPanda Studios
Location: United States
Contact:

Re: Music in VNs-Does Anyone Find It Too Distracting?

#14 Post by redeyesblackpanda » Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:10 am

I used to play all my games muted, because people in public places had a tendency to glare, and I didn't have ear buds. This has carried through. That being said, I prefer to play with the music playing, if it's possible, but don't find myself doing it that often, much to my dismay. My computer... it's always muted... :oops:
(All projects currently on a hiatus of sorts. I blame life.)
Tsundere VN
Not really checking the forums any more due to time constraints, so if you want to contact me, PM. I'll get a notification and log in. :mrgreen:
Also, I've been hit and run posting, which means I don't see many replies. If you want to respond to something I've said, also feel free to PM me.

NOTE: if you've got questions about vnovel or things like that, it's Leon that you should be contacting. Leon's been pretty much handling everything, but due to various reasons, I've had to withdraw entirely.

User avatar
Sapphi
Eileen-Class Veteran
Posts: 1685
Joined: Fri Jun 05, 2009 3:31 am
Completed: Boku no Taisetsu na Yumeko
Projects: Twelve, PAW ★ PRINTS
Organization: Kitsch-soft
Location: Illinois, USA
Contact:

Re: Music in VNs-Does Anyone Find It Too Distracting?

#15 Post by Sapphi » Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:12 am

nyaatrap wrote:Only time when I turn off bgm is when a story is too boring and sleepy and can't keep my concentration without metal music. Then turn it off and listen metal while playing the game instead. It may be because I'm Japanese who is "watching" text more than "reading".
That's interesting. Metal usually ends up putting me to sleep because it's like white noise. But music that is essentially white noise is good for reading to, I think, because it sets the mood without drawing too much attention to itself.

Weirdly enough, I think it's easier to listen to repetitive, "predictable" music while reading than other kinds. It has to hit a certain sweet spot or it will be annoyingly repetitive, but when it does, I think since my mind knows how it will go, it stops concentrating on the music and focuses on other things. True Remembrance had only a handful of BGM tracks that were around a minute long apiece, IIRC. They were non-looping music box midis. I thought at first that they would get annoying, but to my surprise it was nice to read with them playing quietly in the background. I think there was one time I got annoyed and turned off the music, but in general they greatly enhanced the story for me.

So... you know that feeling you get when you hear the beginning of a melody, and you can kind of tell how it will end even if you haven't heard it before? I don't know what the correct term for that is, but I think that's a quality of Songs I Can Read To. (The opposite of that is what sounds like a cat on a keyboard - an irregular beat and no tune to speak of with tones coming from all over the place. The less predictable the music, the more distracting it is. So, weirdly enough, maybe the "generic" music is best.)
"It is [the writer's] privilege to help man endure by lifting his heart,
by reminding him of the courage and honor and hope and pride
and compassion and pity and sacrifice which have been the glory of his past."
— William Faulkner
▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬..+X+..▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
Image

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users