ToL 1 - No go on starting?

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Guest · #1 Post by **Guest** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 2:14 am

For some reason, whenever I start Tales of Lemma, the screen goes black suddenly, like it's about to enter a game, and then it reverts back to the desktop. I have Windows XP, and unzipped everything to a single folder (ToL 1, it's on my desktop, maybe it should be somewhere else)

#2 Post by **Blue Lemma** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 4:41 pm

I think the most frequent cause of this problem is your desktop color depth being set to a mode that is not supported by DirectX in 640x480. Try changing the color depth to 16-bit, 24-bit, or 32-bit and see if that helps. (Don't try 256 color mode.) One of those three color depths should work with the game. To change depths, right-click on the desktop, select "Properties", and then go to the Settings tab.

That should do it

Guest · #3 Post by **Guest** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 10:17 pm

Well, uh, I run normally in 1024xWhatever resolution (I just memorize the first set of numbers for each resolution, I usually get it right) with 32 bit color mode...all the time, and I tried switching it to 16 bit. Nothing.

#4 Post by **Blue Lemma** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 3:09 pm

The other explanation would be that you need this file in the same directory as the game:

alleg40.dll (version 4.0.3)

I accidentally included version 4.0.2. It usually works the same, but some people had the problem you have with it. Try the new one.

Guest · #5 Post by **Guest** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 7:14 pm

Gah, still nothing, if it helps, that optional Allegro setup thing isn't working much for either, like it isn't detecting my MIDI or something (I know what MIDIs are, those digitalized music peices, no words)

#6 Post by **Blue Lemma** » Tue Dec 30, 2003 4:40 pm

What are the specs on your computer?

Guest · #7 Post by **Guest** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 8:58 pm

I'll just post the main information from DXDIAG here...

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System Information
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Time of this report: 12/31/2003, 18:56:21
Machine name: BOLE
Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 1 (2600.xpsp2.030422-1633)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: HP Pavilion 061
System Model: DK218A-ABA A220N
BIOS: BIOS Date: 04/21/03 18:01:22 Ver: 08.00.08
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2600+, MMX, 3DNow, ~2.1GHz
Memory: 448MB RAM
Page File: 240MB used, 818MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0b (4.09.0000.0902)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.0001.0902 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Music Tab: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.

#8 Post by **Blue Lemma** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 4:34 pm

The problem is most likely that the screen can't change to a 640x480 DirectX supported mode. You need to find out what color depths are supported in 640x480 resolution and change to one of them. If none are, you're kind of out of luck

Maybe releasing a version 1.1 with an option for playing inside a window is in order. ^_^;

You could also try putting all the ToL 1 files into a different folder than your desktop (it couldn't hurt

) and trying different compatibility modes to run the game.

Guest · #9 Post by **Guest** » Mon Feb 23, 2004 5:34 pm

Hi, another guest here

. I also have the same problems as the person above, ie. the screen turns blank then reverts to the desktop, and the Allegro setup doesn't work. I have tried combinations of 640x480 (16 bit), 640x480 (32bit), and my normal resolution (800x600) at 16 and 32 bit...

Seems that none of them work, with the 32 bit combinations, the screen just goes black and reverts back, but with the 16 bit combinations the screen goes black, reverts to desktop and then the message "Can not set video mode" pops up, then the program just has a 'fatal error' or something.

The following is from the debug, but I have no idea whether this is helpful or not

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TALES OF LEMMA 1 caused an invalid page fault in
module TALES OF LEMMA 1.EXE at 015f:0040873f.
Registers:
EAX=00000000 CS=015f EIP=0040873f EFLGS=00210202
EBX=00407d98 SS=0167 ESP=007afca0 EBP=007afcb8
ECX=00580114 DS=0167 ESI=008d0940 FS=5717
EDX=66908120 ES=0167 EDI=00000022 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
83 78 20 00 74 14 83 c4 f4 8b 15 68 b4 45 00 8b
Stack dump:
0000003e 008d0940 0000003e 6690068f 44584143 00000280 007afce8 00407f60 00407d98 008d0f78 007afce8 00407f43 007afd58 78001409 00000100 780013e0
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I have the alleg40.dll (version 4.0.3) file in the same folder, and have also tried moving the folder to a directory other than from desktop...I can safely say that it still didn't help

Here's my system specs:

PIII Dell Dimension 450MHz
128MB Ram
Windows 98
ATI XPert 98D AGP 2X Graphics Card
DirectX 8.1

>.< Any way of figuring out my problem? Or am I eternally doomed to live in damnation with this neolithic piece of junk of a computer

Thanks,

Guest · #10 Post by **Guest** » Mon Feb 23, 2004 6:04 pm

Uggh....It's me again...um the above Guest...

Turns out that Shoujo Attack! has the exact same problem cept this time if I use 16 bit it doesn't have a "Can not set video mode", just goes straight into the 'the program has performed a fatal error' or something.. woop-dee-doo for me.

Help?

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