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Saltome wrote: I'm not sure if I really should care about comma splices, considering a lot of works around don't have good spelling, or continuity, let alone proper structure.

You are offering to "correct" other people's works by putting more errors into them. That's why you should care.

But I recognize the problem and I will try to be more weary.

... I think you meant "wary"?

(Yes, typos can happen to anyone, but when you're in a thread devoted to your proofreading services, you are opening yourself up to a great degree of scrutiny.)

Now, let's stop on my sentence for a moment and analyze it.
We have a conjoined non-essential element, followed by the essential element, interrupted by a stylistic pause.
Okay, I guess strictly speaking that last comma is excessive. That's the problem, correct?
But it's there for effect. So is it really that problematic?

Did you read the page I linked you to? Look at entry number 4 on the list. It specifically covers this situation.

Saltome wrote:

Vogue wrote:

Saltome wrote: But it's there for effect. So is it really that problematic?

Yes. The story is prose, not a script. You do not use a comma to denote a pause in any medium where someone is directly reading your work.

Alright, how do you propose I should denote pauses?

With dialogue you can use ellipses. Otherwise, you just don't. Writing that follows all the rules should read well on its own.

This honestly wouldn't matter that much if you were doing it in your own writing. The problem is that, as papillon said, you're creating more errors than there were to begin with.

papillon wrote:You are offering to "correct" other people's works by putting more errors into them. That's why you should care.

Yes, and I do in fact improve the quality of their work. even if I myself make mistakes.
Besides, that's why I always work by making suggestions, not direct edits.
Things can be verified before they are approved.
Having a couple of other people look at it additionally improves the result too.
All I can do is my best.

papillon wrote:... I think you meant "wary"?

(Yes, typos can happen to anyone, but when you're in a thread devoted to your proofreading services, you are opening yourself up to a great degree of scrutiny.)

No, that was an honest mistake.

I don't mind being scrutinized, but I don't approve posts along the line of "I think you're wrong and I'll make sure you feel miserable about it."
The part I do mind is that every time I try to do anything at all, a bunch of people jump in trying to convince me how I'm wrong about doing it, in the most condescending way possible.
And it somehow feels unjust that I should always gets criticized, when there are a bunch of other people doing a worse job than me, and none of them ever gets criticized.

I mean heck, who knows. Maybe I should be proud that I get any attention at all, unlike all the people who get outright ignored.
Maybe it's even my own fault for the attitude I receive from people.
After all it's never been my priority to get on friendly terms with anyone on the forum.

papillon wrote:Did you read the page I linked you to? Look at entry number 4 on the list. It specifically covers this situation.

Yes, I did. And I will go over it again, once I clear my head.
Wasn't that apparent enough by my response?

Vogue wrote:With dialogue you can use ellipses. Otherwise, you just don't. Writing that follows all the rules should read well on its own.

This honestly wouldn't matter that much if you were doing it in your own writing. The problem is that, as papillon said, you're creating more errors than there were to begin with.

So when you are doing it yourself it isn't a problem, but when you are doing it for someone else it is?
Then how will I ever learn that I shouldn't be doing it in the first place?
Basically there's no way of making the transition without going trough my situation.

Plus, after doing a little research, it quickly become apparent that this particular issue is a pretty controversial topic.
So it's not even a real problem, it's just a matter of one opinion versus another.

The bottom line is, if the client is satisfied with what I do, I'm not wrong.
And I will do what is necessary to satisfy the client.
The rest, is secondary.

Saltome wrote: After all it's never been my priority to get on friendly terms with anyone on the forum.

That's probably why you keep getting criticised harshly. After all, this is a forum for being friendly as well as giving criticism and tips ect ect.

You treat others how you want to be treated after all.

Alright, that's enough. This is a recruitment topic.
It's not the place to discuss writing style, nor the place for people to settle their scores with me.
What happened to the good old flame war sections, anyway? *chuckle*

You seem to be under the impression that Vogue and Papillon are here to harrass and defame you. They're not.