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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:59 am
by F.I.A
Well, let's see. I have more VCDs instead of DVDs:

Fist of North Star(Box 1,2 and 3)
Gundam Wing
G Gundam
Z Gundam
Shin Getter Robot: Armageddon
Neo Getter Robot vs Shin Getter Robot
Shin Getter Robot: Another story
Marzinkaiser
Marzinkaiser OVA
Gibli's studio collection(Box #1)
Gungrave
Mahoraba
Area 88
Hand Maid May
Saint Seiya

... around 30 titles, currently. But I doubt that number will be a constant for long. :P

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 11:55 pm
by musical74
Am I the only one that's gonna hazard a guess to how many Anime DVDS ShiraiJunichi has? Can I make another guess, or should I wait till someone else tries first?

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:31 pm
by mikey
I must say except for bgames I have really very little anime DVDs (make that one)

As for other forms of video you can have, I threw away my 6 VHSs, and recently gave away many of, errr... fansubs. So my entire collection is only Onegai Teacher, Noir and Najica. I really watch so little these days, and I find it much more comfortable to just borrow something from my friends, most of the time I don't find it particularly interesting, at least not interesting enough to make an effort to get it for myself. Watch and return.

It's down to me as a person though. While I am a big fan of anime, I like to have as little things around me as possible, and the vision of having my rooms cluttered with manga and DVDs (like several of my friends) is horrifying. But for that, I really treasure the ones I do keep. I have one single manga, I love it (Youre under arrest), and the same goes for the few discs of anime.

Back on topic I guess, ShiraiJunichi has 270 DVDs.

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 3:17 pm
by ShiraiJunichi
mikey wrote:the vision of having my rooms cluttered with manga and DVDs (like several of my friends) is horrifying
My room isn't cluttered with manga and DVDs... I only have one manga, and all of my DVDs are neatly organized. But I think having a large collection is really cool. If I'm bored (if I can find time to be bored), I can just walk up to the shelving in my room, and pick something out. It can even be something I haven't seen yet (haven't even seen about half of my anime yet O_o ). Also, I enjoy being able to be the one that shares anime with friends. None of my friends have near as much anime as I do- if any at all. So if I don't buy it (or download a fansub...) then I probably won't see it.
mikey wrote:Back on topic I guess, ShiraiJunichi has 270 DVDs
Oh my gosh! How did you...! Er, wait- Actually, I have more than that ^_^ Keep guessing ~_^
musical74 wrote:Can I make another guess
What?! Of course not! You have to wait until everyone's had a turn guessing first! Don't be so greedy!! Just kidding :P Yeah, sure- Keep guessing.

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:02 pm
by musical74
Hmmmmm.........more than 270 eh? I'll say....350.

And...how hard is it to learn how to program in java?

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 12:43 am
by Blue Lemma
I'll guess 295.

And as for Java, if you've never programmed before, it's not a good place to start if you're teaching yourself. Trust me. Try C/C++ first :wink:

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 2:56 am
by monele
Let's be bold : 400

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 1:40 pm
by ShiraiJunichi
Blue Lemma wrote:I'll guess 295.

And as for Java, if you've never programmed before, it's not a good place to start if you're teaching yourself. Trust me. Try C/C++ first :wink:
BL is the closest. I have... more than 295. I'll disclose the actual amount tonight, I think.

As for Java, I think it is probably the easiest language to start teaching yourself. I guess I can't really say, because all programming languages I know have been taught in the classroom, but it seems like Java is the easiest useful language. Java does a lot of things to protect the programmer. It does garbage collection, checks for beyond array accesses, implicitly initializes all variables to null, all methods are virtual, and many other things. C++ has a lot of nuances that can cause you quite a bit of grief. Plus Java has massive amounts of documentation. Anything you could possibly want to know about the Java API is all online. Whereas C++ libraries are smaller, and finding documentation can be tough. Java also has extensive tutorials that can help you right from the beginning.
Of course, I guess my opinion is a bit biased. I've been programming in Java for years, and I only just picked up C++ - and I don't even know it too well yet. But still, you have to admit, Java does a lot of things for the programmer that C++ relies on the programmer to do. In a way, this is a positive thing for C++, because it makes the program more efficient. However, this also allows the programmer to "shoot themselves in the foot", as my professor would say. There are so many things you can do in C++ that would destroy your program- and the worst part is that you won't even know there's a problem until you start noticing bugs- and then you have to track them down. With java, most errors will manifest themselves at compile time, or will throw an exception during runtime that makes the problem easy to track down.
Plus, Java has free IDE's that you can use, like JBuilder, or Eclipse. The only IDE I know for C++ is Visual Studio.

So I feel pretty confident that Java is easier to learn than C++. As for which language is better... I probably couldn't say so easily. C++ is more efficient, more powerful, and should run on most/all Windows machines, without any additional software- while Java requires the Java runtime environment to be installed, but is platform independant. There are pluses and minuses to both sides

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 1:55 pm
by monele
I'll agree about Java. Maybe it's one of those "started with it first" bias, but I like Java over C (and on equal level with C++ so far). I'd like to see such protective measures used in other languages. Debugging the simplest program in C/C++ takes ages compared to Java who won't even let it run until you get something at least "grammatically correct" :).
On the other side, Flash and languages like Coldfusion are horrible about freedom (especially Flash, erg). Too much freedom kills freedom @_@

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 3:31 pm
by PyTom
Lingusitically, I like Java better. But I dislike that most of the java implementations use garbage collection as their primary means of memory management. That's great for systems with a large amount of free ram... but here in the real world.

Java is a good language for learning, I think. It's object oriented (which rules C out), and doesn't have the feature creep of C++. There are alot of features in C++ which could serve to confuse the newcomer.

That being said, I'm more and more inclined to reccomend a dynamic language for a first programming language. They let the new programmer worry about getting algorithms correct, without needing to worry about type annotations and the like. I think people can guess what language I'd reccomend.

I'm not sure what compiler monole is using that lets him run a program that is gramattically incorrect (== doesn't parse).

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 3:51 am
by monele
Um, sorry :) I meant something with a strict parser that will check types and such. Haven't done much C but I remember the many runtime errors I got which could have been avoided (and easier to correct) if I was told "incompatible types" at compilation :). I think casting is particularly unchecked in C.

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 12:46 pm
by musical74
Wow, thanks for all the info. everyone! :) I've kicked the idea around of starting to program off and on but wasn't sure where to start. (hence my hesitation to give NaNoReNo a go)

I'll make my final guess for how many ShiraiJunchi has to be 325.

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:17 pm
by ShiraiJunichi
I have 317. So less people than I thought think I have "problems" ^_^. It currently takes about six shelves (3 feet wide) to store everything. If anyone has anywhere near as much as I do, or even more, I'd be interested to know... I kind of wonder how many people are similar to me in this regard...

Ren'Py requires almost no programming. It's mostly just specifying who says what, and what images to show- really simple stuff. Anyone can join NanoReno if they use Ren'Py

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 6:29 am
by Alessio
What really works well for me is to sell DVDs after watching them, unless they are really, really great and I want to keep them. Happens rarely. So I'm making other people happy by selling them brand new DVDs at a bargain price, and I only need very little shelf space for my DVDs. Same applies to mangas.