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I'm looking for people who are running Windows 98 or Windows ME, in order to test to see if the fix that I made for the window title problem will work on those systems.
To test, please download the attached version of Ren'Py, and run it. If it pops up without crashing, then everything is good. Let me know either way.
Note that the rest of this code is an untested work-in-progress, and so shouldn't be used for game development, or to make games, or whatever.
Hm... if the problem is that the name is wrong on 98/me, I'm willing to live with it, so long as the game still runs.
The name is right on 2000, and it should also work on NT4, 2000, XP, and Vista. The problem is that Windows 98 and ME don't support unicode at the OS level, which means that the call to set the window name doesn't work.
Or I may try to go with a hybrid approach, where ascii works everywhere, and unicode works on those operating systems. That might be the best way.
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Well, with the updates I just did, it will work on 98/ME so long as the title is all ascii. Unicode names will work on 2000+, while on 98/ME the unicode characters will be replaced by question marks. That's the best I can do.
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Just for info, I'm running WinXP, but my parents aren't for example. They don't really *need* it given their computer habits. So what... no Ren'Py for them? (and me when I'm there?).
No, I'm just amazed/entertained when I see old timey computer hardware/software of any sort, like these ridiculously old looking computers used as cash registers at my local Circuit City. It's also a good reminder of how divided the Digital Age still is.
"That thing you burnt up isn't important to me. It's the fluid catalytic
cracking unit. It made shoes for orphans. Nice job breaking it, hero."
I think it's nice to keep such things around, if only to notice how it evolved (or not!). And you'll also notice that sometimes, it's enough... or even more efficient than nowadays interface-bloated new systems. I really don't like the idea that you should upgrade just because there's a new version. It *is* possible that some things were better in older versions, and it should not be brushed off so easily.
That said, Win98 is admittedly rather unstable for many things and is certainly not up to date with more recent hardware, especially USB stuff. Oh, and international support (Japanese!) is lacking :/. But it does run a lot of things, as long as you're not looking at the very last next-gen game.
Excuse me. My whole music studio revolves around a Win98 machine, because
- the hardware is cheap, small, and super silent (P3/1000)
- it is super stable as it only runs music-related software (no internet)
- all my vintage hardware and software works with it
- and there is no benefit whatsoever from upgrading.
monele wrote:Just for info, I'm running WinXP, but my parents aren't for example. They don't really *need* it given their computer habits. So what... no Ren'Py for them? (and me when I'm there?).
Well, for now, Ren'Py is still supported on Windows 98. That being said, there will be a point where I do decide to stop supporting 98/ME, or where the libraries I use stop supporting that platform. I take the position that while I don't plan on doing anything to actively break compatibility, if it happens, it happens.
Yes, there are some people where I say "No Ren'Py for you.", although I tend to be more polite about it and couch it in terms of minimum supported OS versions. We don't support Windows 95 or 3.1, or versions of Mac OS X before 10.4.
A C=64 is right out.
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