Continuously flowing NVL mode

[luminarious]

Hi!

I am still not python-savvy enough for my needs, so I turn to You, fellow Renpyans.. It should not be very difficult, I hope, to modify NVL mode to behave thusly: if the next sentence would be outside the nvl-mode textbox, the topmost row or two would be removed instead. And like wise, if a NVL-style menu comes up, the choices would again be added to the bottom of the text. This way I would need to add the nvl clear statements only when I really need them. The text would flow a lot more naturally.

I from the code I understand only that it can somehow be done, but the specifics are over my head..

[EvilDragon]

I think it's much better to add nvl clear every time it should be used. That way the end-page ctc indicator works as it should. Also, less errors are possible that way.

[luminarious]

I think it's much better to add nvl clear every time it should be used. That way the end-page ctc indicator works as it should. Also, less errors are possible that way.

I appreciate the comments, but I'm going for a rather specific look/feel with this. And endpage indicator wouldn't look right anyway..

[chronoluminaire]

I think it's much better to add nvl clear every time it should be used. That way the end-page ctc indicator works as it should. Also, less errors are possible that way.

I'm not sure you've understood. It sounds like luminarious is wanting to have most of the game be a continuous flow of text (with mouse clicks every paragraph), so there'll be very few places where "nvl clear" would be wanted - probably just scene changes. It sounds like a nice interface, but I'm not familiar enough with NVL mode to know how to program it myself.

[Watercolorheart]

I haven't tried NVL mode yet. Is it comparable to the power of Tsukihime's presentation?

[EvilDragon]

Yes, of course it is. You can even have those crazy tabbed lines all over the screen. With the help of a certain "Custom text tags" script from the Cookbook.

[delta]

Seems doable if you write your own buffer (a list of recent lines) and display that in a custom displayable. I did something like that to get readback.

[luminarious]

After more than a year, I still find myself sometimes thinking about such a way of presenting text. Has anyone given it any thought meanwhile?

It seems some sort of buffering and a scrollable text-box is needed. Only about a hundred or so last lines would be in this buffer and scrollback would just scroll up to show the previous lines, no images would change. But how to do it, I couldn't figure out myself..

Anyone?

[luminarious]

I should probably rename the topic, as it's most probably possible, it's just that I don't know how yet..

Ok, I've made first steps.. it's possible to collect lines of text in nvl mode via http://lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewto ... 469#p56469 , if I understand this correctly.

Also, admittedly, a very important reason for me is that when I've written a whole bunch of text, I really don't want to break the flow of reading with unnecessary screenclearing..

[luminarious]

I still haven't succeeded in programming this on my own, so I again turn to you. Would anyone be willing to develop this in exchange for my services? I'm not much of an artist, but I can proofread, playtest, make a website, whatever else..

(I do really really wish PyTom would implement this himself, so that every game designer could decide for himself wether to use nvl clear or just let the text flow. But I understand there's little to be done if I'm the only petitioner..)

[Gumaster]

not sure if this will do what you want it to, but have you tried using ADV mode with a fullscreen textbox? It scrolls down if the text exceeds the textbox, so I think the effect would be similar to what you want...
Menus would be kinda iffy though, especially if you have a lot of them, although there probably is an alternative I'm not aware of.

[JinzouTamashii]

You guys continually amaze me.

I can't wait for the next Ren'Py version.

[luminarious]

not sure if this will do what you want it to, but have you tried using ADV mode with a fullscreen textbox? It scrolls down if the text exceeds the textbox, so I think the effect would be similar to what you want...
Menus would be kinda iffy though, especially if you have a lot of them, although there probably is an alternative I'm not aware of.

Indeed, I have a lot of menus I can't leave out. I'm using nvl_menu to better integrate them into the dialogue text flow.

[Gumaster]

well, if you're only putting a 100 line buffer or so, you could just copypaste the last 100 lines, and stick it on a new page with the {fast} tag, so that it appears all at once (and thus doesn't look like anything has changed, since it's the same text as what was already there) and stick the menu under it, which is what I do currently (without the 100 line buffer, just the text on that page) It's messy and clogs stuff up and looks like spaghetti code and is inconvenient but it LOOKS like it works, which is how I work xD I didn't like NVL mode when I tried it, so I did this to mimic FSN/tsuki type fullscreen textboxes