hide at followed by show at not working properly? [Solved]

[Valiowk]

I'm trying to use the first example from this thread. My goal is to modify the following code so that I can use the ATL commands repeatedly with different characters:

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    show xxx:
        linear 0.5 alpha 0.0
    show yyy:
        alpha 0.0
        pause 0.5
        linear 0.5 alpha 0.5

That is, xxx is suppose to dissolve away in 0.5 seconds, then after 0.5 seconds when xxx has dissolved away, yyy dissolves in to become semitransparent.

My modified code looks as follows.

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init:
    transform diss:
        on show:
            alpha 0.0
            pause 0.5
            linear 0.5 alpha 0.5
        on hide:
            linear 0.5 alpha 0.0

and in the script I have

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    hide xxx at diss
    show yyy at diss

When I run the code, however, xxx disappears immediately and yyy appears immediately.
Of course, I could write

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    hide xxx
    with dissolve

instead of "hide xxx at diss" and remove the pause from the "on show" part for this example, but I'd prefer not to do that in case I want to make further customizations to the "on hide" statement. I also don't want to have to write out the full ATL code every time because I'll be using the commands rather frequently.

Am I misunderstanding something about the way "at" works?

[philat]

I'm guessing, but it sounds like you're replacing images via image tags. http://www.renpy.org/doc/html/displayin ... html#image

[Valiowk]

I'm guessing, but it sounds like you're replacing images via image tags. http://www.renpy.org/doc/html/displayin ... html#image

Yes, xxx and yyy are image names.

If it's useful for you to know, I'm using the built-in define image figure that makes each image name the same as the file name (without the names of any folders the file is in - I assume that's how the built-in feature works?). Moreover, every time I use the code above, I'm using it for different characters, so the image tags of xxx and yyy are different.

Is there something I'm misunderstanding about replacing images via image tags?

[philat]

I meant it sounds like you are doing the following:

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hide image one at diss
show image two at diss

which automatically uses replace/replaced events, not hide/show events. If not, there is no reason the ATL should not be working.

[Valiowk]

I meant it sounds like you are doing the following:

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hide image one at diss
show image two at diss

which automatically uses replace/replaced events, not hide/show events. If not, there is no reason the ATL should not be working.

Please see the reply above - the image tags of xxx and yyy should be different, as far as I understand. Does this still end up using replace/replaced events instead of hide/show events?

Actually, my code frequently looks more like

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hide xxx at diss, left
show yyy at diss, right

If the reason why replace/replaced events are being used is because both the hide and show have "at diss", would making separate codes for "at diss, left" and "at diss, right" help?

[philat]

I read what you wrote. I was clarifying what I meant. Again, if that is not the case, I don't know why it's not working, as it's working for me.

ETA in response to your edits: I am not saying that the replace/replaced events are being used. I repeat, I don't know. What I do know is that the following works without issue.

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image white = Solid("FFF", xysize=(50,50))
image red = Solid("F00", xysize=(50,50))

transform diss:
    on show:
        alpha 0.0
        pause 0.5
        linear 0.5 alpha 0.5
    on hide:
        linear 0.5 alpha 0.0

label start:

    show white at diss
    e "You've created a new Ren'Py game."
    hide white at diss
    show red at diss
    e "Once you add a story, pictures, and music, you can release it to the world!"

[Valiowk]

Actually, my code frequently looks more like

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hide xxx at diss, left
show yyy at diss, right

If the reason why replace/replaced events are being used is because both the hide and show have "at diss", would making separate codes for "at diss, left" and "at diss, right" help?

Following on the above, I wrote separate codes for "at diss, left" and "at diss, right", and it now has the behaviour that xxx dissolves away in 0.5 seconds, then after 0.5 seconds when xxx has dissolved away, yyy dissolves in to become semitransparent. So it seems that the issue is that for me, but not for philat above, using "hide at" and "show at" of the same ATL automatically uses replace/replaced events even if the image tags of the two images are different...?

[philat]

Adding left or right after diss does not alter the behavior for me, nor should it. Perhaps you've customized the default left/right transforms in some way that is incompatible with the ATL, but again, I'm guessing.

[Valiowk]

Adding left or right after diss does not alter the behavior for me, nor should it. Perhaps you've customized the default left/right transforms in some way that is incompatible with the ATL, but again, I'm guessing.

Aha, problem found. You're right - I redefined the positions of left/right, just changing their xalign and xpos. Now this is the the strange thing I don't understand: if I write "at left, diss" and "at right, diss" instead of "at diss, left" and "at diss, right", then the problem goes away. So apparently there is some incompatibility in the order after the positions have been redefined, but not before... But since the problem has been solved I'm not going to worry about it for now.

(So it was the part of my code that I thought was unimportant that was causing the problem. Apologies for leaving it out at the start!)