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Signatures
Due to a rash of spammers registering an account, then posting a reply with a link in the signature, I have disabled signatures for accounts with 0 or 1 posts. The ability to post with a signature will automatically be enabled once an account has posted twice.
(This policy may change if it proves ineffective.)
(This policy may change if it proves ineffective.)
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Re: Signatures
Isn't signature some kind of priviledge anyway? It's kinda useless add-on unless someone uses it as for posting links and banners to their sites and stuff or leaving messages. Anyway, if things get worse I suggest raising the level ofrequired to 10 or even 30 - last forum is was an admin had some serious issues with spambots that were using signatures as an additional spam field
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Re: Signatures
You may want to really boost it to 20/30 I know of a site (one i'm a member of) that was attacked by a spam bot that posted in every single forum section on the site. So it posted about 20 something times. Just letting you know.
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Re: Signatures
Agreed, just a few posts would be too easy. Raising it to 30 would be a good idea, I think.
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Re: Signatures
Spammers have to ruin everything nice in a forum. I agree though raising it a bit might be helpful I think for a spammer getting a couple posts would be easy. Though let's hope they aren't that motivated to try something like that. Which I don't think they usually are though I could be wrong.
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Re: Signatures
Agree. Increasing the minimum number of post before able to post signature is alright for me. Besides people who never post more than 10 or 20 post in this forum won't find signature too important anyway.
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Re: Signatures
30? Way excessive. We haven't had 30+ post spammers (lately -- that I know of), so why punish people who can't find something to say in the limited number of topics available on the forum? A signature is a way to establish an identity and community. If you remove the signature, might as well strip an avatar as well.
Spammers really don't have time to post once or twice, then go back to their signature, and post 20+ more times. They post as fast as they can before they're deleted, most likely. I agree with PyTom's logic here. 1 is more than enough deterrent.
Spammers really don't have time to post once or twice, then go back to their signature, and post 20+ more times. They post as fast as they can before they're deleted, most likely. I agree with PyTom's logic here. 1 is more than enough deterrent.
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Re: Signatures
Honestly, I'm curious if this will stop them, or if we'll see the same sort of "Why, that's a well-argued point, which I agree with."-type post, but without the signature. So it's a bit of an experiment.
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Re: Signatures
If you do raise the post requirement 15 would be a good max, 1 more than we have forum sections so it should deter the spammers without making it too far out of reach for newbies. But only raise the req if the 0 and 1 post thing doest work.
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I disagree. I've actually run my MangaTutorials forum without giving members the ability to make signatures for years* and it didn't deter members from establishing an identity and community. Most people actually just put their siggy in the "Location" spot instead.Aleema wrote:A signature is a way to establish an identity and community. If you remove the signature, might as well strip an avatar as well.
* It was mainly instated because I was using phpbb2 (lack of signature admin control in CP) at the time and people were disregarding the rules (and I didn't feel like warning everyone who broke it; I did for a bit but it got tedious real fast)
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I didn't say it was the only way. That would be ridiculous.rioka wrote:I disagree. I've actually run my MangaTutorials forum without giving members the ability to make signatures for years* and it didn't deter members from establishing an identity and community. Most people actually just put their siggy in the "Location" spot instead.Aleema wrote:A signature is a way to establish an identity and community. If you remove the signature, might as well strip an avatar as well.
But your forum does prove the point that they had to resort to a different medium to express themselves (the Location spot).
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And I didn't say that you said it was the only way. I'm just stating that people can live without signatures just fine. It's inconvenient, yes, but members can deal. And yes, they can express themselves in some other medium but at least spammers can't make links in the location spot. If they did, it's at least not clickable.Aleema wrote:I didn't say it was the only way. That would be ridiculous.
But your forum does prove the point that they had to resort to a different medium to express themselves (the Location spot).
Btw, PyTom, you can make a custom field in the profile where people can link to their sites and make it viewable underneath the avatar just like the Joined Date, Posts, and Location are underneath our avatars.
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Fair enough. But I stand by my statement that the inconvenience x 30 is excessive. Companies that make their game piracy-free through DRM will find they've made their game unplayable for even the people who bought it legally. Just something to think about.rioka wrote:And I didn't say that you said it was the only way. I'm just stating that people can live without signatures just fine. It's inconvenient, yes, but members can deal. And yes, they can express themselves in some other medium but at least spammers can't make links in the location spot. If they did, it's at least not clickable.
He did, it's called "Projects". Not sure if you can post working links inside of it, though. But I'll always prefer a graphical button.rioka wrote:Btw, PyTom, you can make a custom field in the profile where people can link to their sites and make it viewable underneath the avatar just like the Joined Date, Posts, and Location are underneath our avatars.
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Inconvenience via not having signatures is one thing. Inconvenience via DRM is another completely different ballgame. They're apples and oranges Aleema. It's not all black and white.Aleema wrote:Fair enough. But I stand by my statement that the inconvenience x 30 is excessive. Companies that make their game piracy-free through DRM will find they've made their game unplayable for even the people who bought it legally. Just something to think about.
Yes, they can be made into links if he wished them to be. As for images, I just checked in my own forum and it unfortunately will not show an image. : (Aleema wrote:He did, it's called "Projects". Not sure if you can post working links inside of it, though. But I'll always prefer a graphical button.
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Sure, they may be too different to compare. My main reasoning behind saying that stripping the signature is a demerit toward community that, in the 30-post-count situation, it would create two groups of people: those with signatures and those with none. Whereas your forum simply had no signatures. That is apples and oranges, too.rioka wrote:Inconvenience via not having signatures is one thing. Inconvenience via DRM is another completely different ballgame. They're apples and oranges Aleema. It's not all black and white.
Edit: I'm done polluting this thread. Said my peace. ^^
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