Why Yuri games are so unpopular?

[curry nochi rice]

to further gauge things... let's try and name a few yuri eroge's we encountered:


>Katanahe
>Sono Hanabira o idontknowwhat'snexthere / Sono Hana

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@.@ I guess it's the interest of the devs rather than of the people.

[papillon]

to further gauge things... let's try and name a few yuri eroge's we encountered:

(warning warning potential NSFW links vndb)

MajiYuri
Seisai no Resonance
Okujou no Yurirei-san
Kanojo to Kanojo to Watashi no Nanoka -Seven days with the Ghost-


These are the ones that come up most often in /u/ discussions. There are many others that are partly or mostly yuri but fail the Pure Yuri test due to crossdressing characters, futa, male options, and so on. Many yuri fans are picky about keeping the boys far far away. Also some that are super short sexfests or doujin games, and some with so little information available about them that I have no idea how yuri or not they are

[DaFool]

I used to like yuri more, but nowadays I tend to prefer Kamina-style "drill that pierces the heavens" BxG since the characters in yuri can just be as wishy-washy as the impotent male leads that drove me off towards yuri to begin with. This kinda coincides with my weaning off nice girl harems (e.g. Ah! My Goddess) towards yandere harems so I don't have much patience for softy relationship stories anymore. I just want characters to get it on. When you have RIGHTEOUS male characters, my aversion to them disappears. So instead of CGs where the girls appear to be floating I prefer the full "embrace" now, I guess it's just my tastes maturing.

edit: Yuri eroge, um Sugar's Delight. (Sorry I took the builds down, not gonna host for a defunct group, or at least the 18+ team it used to be.)

[noeinan]

Since we're sharing... Here's a manga written by a lesbian in Japan, about being a (real) lesbian in Japan. Actually mentions how peoples reactions are changed if they've read yuri-- I highly recommend it.

http://mangafox.me/manga/honey_honey/

[Sleipnir56]

Personally, I love both yaoi and yuri just fine. Most of my projects and stories have both elements, though the focus is usually heavily on BL for personal reasons.

I don't mind the fan service or romantic fluff in either, but I lean towards more darker interests which appears more frequently in yaoi. I'm not sure about the average yaoi fangirl, but I grew up on things like Ai no Kusabi, Togainu no Chi, etc. so I like a lot of gritty power play that is hard to carry out in yuri without seeming like the average hentai. My interests are more mental and yuri (of that nature) focuses too heavily on the visual aspects, not the thoughts in their heads.

That's just me, though. As others have mentioned, it's probably due to the lack of English speaking male consumers. I would wager there are plenty of eroge yuri games available in Japan, but they probably aren't often translated for those reasons.

I can understand that. To me, some Yuri is just plainly made for the eroge parts and don't car for the story. When it comes to anime they can be really bad as well, bit things like Maria- sama is an okay story. Like you I prefer yaoi. Read it a lot . But funny that is, on here, I see more yuri games

[Sleipnir56]

It's hard to find yuri eroges, but it's not hard to find a very brief yuri scene, flirtation, or active threesome within a het eroge.

Rumor has it that cultural expectations in Japan are such that GxG interaction is considered normal but childish, a phase that girls will go through and grow out of. There's a lot of media that features girls being overly friendly with each other and crushing on each other, and then 'getting over it' and ending up with men, and others where they're clearly playing up a hint of yuri but aiming it at a male gaze. However, I am obviously not Japanese and these rumors are filtered through internet weirdos who are not always right.


Yes, I still have a serious yuri VN in my list of projects I want to do (my current project is GxG but it's not exactly a VN, it's complicated) but goodness only knows when I'll ever get to it.

I've heard that a lot in Japan though it may just be rumors. It does seen to happen though but a lot more in a whole girls school because there are no guys. Even anime is lacking though, having more shows on yaoi. Also, those rumors center more around girls yet bit guys but they is more yaoi.

Also, that's cool. I'll play that game your making like I've played your others. Good luck

[Haika]

The real question is, more like... why eroge is popular?

[SundownKid]

The real question is, more like... why eroge is popular?

Well that one is easy. Sex sells, even if people don't like to admit it. I'm probably not in the target audience, but it seems to be working seeing as there are so many fanservice-y animes these days with ridiculous plots.

[noeinan]

Well, "sex sells" isn't particularly accurate anymore-- except in the realm of pornography. It used to be that pornography wasn't so easy to get a hold of, so showing sexy images in TV shows, advertisements. etc. brought in a lot of revenue. Now, though, porn is everywhere and it's easy to get, so showing sexy images in non-porn works doesn't actually make them sell better. The problem is more that the demand has changed but the market has not followed suit.

Read about this in an interesting article that talked about both this, and female protagonists-- shows with female protagonists actually did just as well as male-protag shows, but on way less funding. They also talked about the whole "misogyny sells" thing, both sex and female leads, and how that isn't actually supported by the numbers. Anywho, I'll stop going off topic now, this is just something I find interesting. ^^ (I can go find a link to the article if anyone else is interested, just send me a pm.)

[TheOneAndOnly-K]

I can't find any Yuri games to play in all honesty.. XD

[Green Glasses Girl]

A lot of the yuri games I see, well...are focused on saccharine school cliches, usually high schoolers in uniforms being shy and cutsey and shiny and first crushes and first kisses and cherry blossoms and white lilies and etc. In contrast, I notice many yaoi games have guys who are time-traveling, going to battle, participating in whirlwind adventures across the globe, resurrecting demons, traveling to alternate dimensions... It kind of ticks me off that there are so many tropes that are associated with such.

Is it purely a result of men writing yuri or women writing yaoi? I have no idea. But don't get me wrong- I adore cuteness and girlishness as much as the next person, but quite honestly, I'd probably be more interested in yuri games if they moved away from those things being the focus? Why can't there be girls kicking ass and falling in love while doing it? Why must they always be in high school? Where are the adult/older women? Where are the adventures that affect their lives on a larger scale? Maybe I'm alone on wanting to see a little more action (no pun intended) in those stories rather than "falling in love with the girl-next-door and maybe we'll go on a date!" kind of thing.

[Mad Harlequin]

I'd probably be more interested in yuri games if they moved away from those things being the focus? Why can't there be girls kicking ass and falling in love while doing it? Why must they always be in high school? Where are the adult/older women? Where are the adventures that affect their lives on a larger scale? Maybe I'm alone on wanting to see a little more action (no pun intended) in those stories rather than "falling in love with the girl-next-door and maybe we'll go on a date!" kind of thing.

We need more stories that pass the yuri equivalent of the Bechdel test.

[Asceai]

What is the yuri equivalent of the Bechdel test? Two females meet and discuss something that isn't related to food, school or fashion? =P

[Taleweaver]

What is the yuri equivalent of the Bechdel test? Two females meet and discuss something that isn't related to food, school or fashion? =P

...and don't immediately have sex.

[ThisIsNoName]

A lot of the yuri games I see, well...are focused on saccharine school cliches, usually high schoolers in uniforms being shy and cutsey and shiny and first crushes and first kisses and cherry blossoms and white lilies and etc. In contrast, I notice many yaoi games have guys who are time-traveling, going to battle, participating in whirlwind adventures across the globe, resurrecting demons, traveling to alternate dimensions... It kind of ticks me off that there are so many tropes that are associated with such.

Is it purely a result of men writing yuri or women writing yaoi? I have no idea. But don't get me wrong- I adore cuteness and girlishness as much as the next person, but quite honestly, I'd probably be more interested in yuri games if they moved away from those things being the focus? Why can't there be girls kicking ass and falling in love while doing it? Why must they always be in high school? Where are the adult/older women? Where are the adventures that affect their lives on a larger scale? Maybe I'm alone on wanting to see a little more action (no pun intended) in those stories rather than "falling in love with the girl-next-door and maybe we'll go on a date!" kind of thing.

I think a lot of it just has to do with public perception. There are plenty of people who would like to write female characters who kick ass, but the problem is that people generally don't want to women get their asses kicked. That's why so often you either see women who are simply bystanders, or women who mow down all the enemies before them, without much in between.

Granted, there are games, like the new Tomb Raider, that repeatedly kill/beat up the heroine in more and more gruesome ways, but even then it's meant to evoke a feeling of horror, instead of a hardship she must overcome.