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Re: Queer Catboy Love Triangle Disaster! [BxB] Deluxe on Ste

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 4:39 pm
by exizel
I remembered that game, I didn't expected to enjoy it has much has I did, so I kind of want to see that deluxe version.

Re: Queer Catboy Love Triangle Disaster! [BxB] Deluxe on Ste

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:14 pm
by Rosstin
If we do a Deluxe version, what kind of features would people be interested in?

What did you like and dislike about the game?

Re: Queer Catboy Love Triangle Disaster! [BxB] Deluxe on Ste

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:58 pm
by Marchare
I finally got to play the game and oh, cheating and poly-amorous themes are relatively unheard of when it comes to BL games. At first I was afraid Colt and Shane would embody the seme/uke archetypes, but I'm glad that wasn't the case. Couldn't tell you which characters I liked the most, and like tobesomething said Beau doesn't deserves any of these catboys. :p

That said, I'm a bit curious as to what you plan on doing with a Deluxe edition. Kitty Love gives me the feeling of something experimental, the kind of early projects a game devs make in order to get a good grasp of the engine and the process of making a Visual Novel; rather than a finished products meant for commercialization (steam means commercial, right?).

Hence, I'm wondering: what to you guys plan on keeping from the original game?
Are you going to re-make it from scratch, with it's own GUI, re-mastered sprites, backgrounds, text, CGs, everything, or just add new elements in your current installment?

Re: Queer Catboy Love Triangle Disaster! [BxB] Deluxe on Ste

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:48 pm
by exizel
Sorry, I wanted to replay the game before answering
Marchare wrote:I finally got to play the game and oh, cheating and poly-amorous themes are relatively unheard of when it comes to BL games. At first I was afraid Colt and Shane would embody the seme/uke archetypes, but I'm glad that wasn't the case. Couldn't tell you which characters I liked the most, and like tobesomething said Beau doesn't deserves any of these catboys. :p
I agree with Marchare,except that I like Colt the best, the biggest surprise for me was that I expect seme/uke tropes but I was glad to to not see them
Marchare wrote:That said, I'm a bit curious as to what you plan on doing with a Deluxe edition. Kitty Love gives me the feeling of something experimental, the kind of early projects a game devs make in order to get a good grasp of the engine and the process of making a Visual Novel; rather than a finished products meant for commercialization (steam means commercial, right?).

Hence, I'm wondering: what to you guys plan on keeping from the original game?
Are you going to re-make it from scratch, with it's own GUI, re-mastered sprites, backgrounds, CGs, everything, or just add new elements in your current installment?
this,this,this

I don't know what you want to say by deluxe version and so I can't really answer because I don't know if the change I want would be reasonnable or not.

Re: Queer Catboy Love Triangle Disaster! [BxB] Deluxe on Ste

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 5:18 pm
by Rosstin
Well, from my perspective, we're a few months away from finishing Queen At Arms which was a huge project. Candidly, much huger than I wanted it to be.

Doing a "deluxe" version of Catboy would basically involve at a minimum:
- Adding drawn backgrounds, as the current version has none
- redoing character sprites to be better
- redoing CGs, adding CGs
- Cleaning up the worst sprites (like the dog, maybe)
- Make a nice UI
- Adding at least one dateable character (although it could be a bit tricky)
- Get feedback from players and do whatever we can do to make it a better game (cleaning up / modifying paths, little things like the title screen, I'd want the poly ending to be more positive, etc)

I guess the bottom line is that I still really like this game and would like it to be spruced up a bit, and I could see us doing that in like 3 months maximum at a pretty relaxed pace, a nice break from all the work that's gone into Queen. And it's really queer in a much more bold-faced way than Queen is, which I like a lot.

Ultimately I want to get a lot of feedback and just make a better more polished game according to what the audience wants, and try to get a wider audience for it. Not that it's a game that is really going to find a huge audience, but I want anyone who is into gay catboys to be aware that it exists at least, haha. ^_^;

Marchare, what do you think would push this from being a little experimental project into being a "commercial" game?

I don't really care particularly about how many units we'd sell or how much we sell it for, I could see us selling it for like $5 or something, less even. I care more about cleaning up something I'm fond of and making sure it has the best version of itself available.

Exizel, what's the change(s) you'd personally like to see?

Re: Queer Catboy Love Triangle Disaster! [BxB] Deluxe on Ste

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 5:57 pm
by Shaples
asterazul wrote:I'd want the poly ending to be more positive.
This :D

I don't think I chimed in before, but this was a cute, fun little game; I'd be interested to see what you do with it.

Re: Queer Catboy Love Triangle Disaster! [BxB] Deluxe on Ste

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:07 pm
by Marchare
asterazul wrote:Marchare, what do you think would push this from being a little experimental project into being a "commercial" game?
I may be biased since this is something I've been working on a lot lately, but I'd say the UI is an important aspect that would make the player tell appart "experimental" from "commercial". Same goes for the transitions/animations/transformations. Doesn't make the story better, but that's one of the first thing the audience gets to see as they launch your game.

I'm all for a more "positive" poly ending too, as long as it doesn't feel like Beau somehow tricked his lovers into doing it.

Re: Queer Catboy Love Triangle Disaster! [BxB] Deluxe on Ste

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 5:37 pm
by Rosstin
Yeah one of the things I was thinking was, since the script for this is already done, is I can focus on just coding up nicer UI and stuff.

Re: Queer Catboy Love Triangle Disaster! [BxB] Deluxe on Ste

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:30 pm
by exizel
a lot of what I want has already been said.

-The game is really short, so adding a few scene could be great
-For that type of game(short game with a lot choice) more ending would be best.
-New dateable(s) character(s) would be great :D (more poly ending, ok I'm out :arrow: ).

For some reason, our choices in the flashback affect colt and shane's personality, but it's only a flag for the "shane and colt" ending and the poly ending, it would be great if their personality change the dialogue a little.

Re: Queer Catboy Love Triangle Disaster! [BxB] Deluxe on Ste

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 5:05 am
by Rosstin
Thanks Ex, this is the kind of feedback I'm looking for. I want to tighten everything up, the variables, the writing, the pacing. We're going to do a line-by-line of the whole game and it will help a lot to know what people's experiences are and how to improve them.

Re: Queer Catboy Love Triangle Disaster! [BxB] Deluxe on Ste

Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 12:27 am
by Creeper
Who provides the voices in the game? Or rather, the sound effect voices? (Or are they the same?)

Re: Queer Catboy Love Triangle Disaster! [BxB] Deluxe on Ste

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:30 pm
by Rosstin2
If we did a Deluxe Edition we'd get better voice actors. Not sure who yet.

Re: Queer Catboy Love Triangle Disaster! [BxB] Deluxe on Ste

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 2:21 am
by Rosstin2
Oh, the actors themselves were me (Rosstin), the author (Ash), and the programmer (Andrew). No budget, no problem!

Re: Queer Catboy Love Triangle Disaster! [BxB] Deluxe on Ste

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:56 am
by Starshine
exizel wrote:I remembered that game, I didn't expected to enjoy it has much has I did, so I kind of want to see that deluxe version.
Yes ,me too the characters are "adorable", i remember forwarding this game to a friend but she "never" got around to playing it, she really missed out xD