Disabling clicking during transitions?

[DANCUBE]

I've seen a few threads about this, none of which really helped/worked, so I'm sorry if this seems repetitive.
How can I disable and enable the use of clicking? This would be really helpful for making sure a transition completes before the user can advance.

For example, if I wish to code a segment where I display various images/text that is timed to advance on its own, and I want to have the user wait until said segment has finished before they can advance, how would I achieve this?

[PyTom]

Doing this is a really bad idea. When the user clicks, it's often because they want to skip the transition - for example, if this is the second or later time they've played the game, and they know what's going to happen. It's rare that users will just randomly click through a transition, and if they do - well, that's what rollback is for.

That being said, if you really want to do this:

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$ renpy.transition(dissolve)
$ renpy.pause(.5, hard=True)

[DANCUBE]

Thanks Tom, some parts of my VN have say, one short line of text, with a few fading images that must be displayed while that line is on-screen, so the user may not realize that advancing to the next line will go to ANOTHER set of images in transition.
That code helps, the transitions aren't long whatsoever, but definitely extremely easy to skip over, since the dialogue is so short.

Without using hard pauses, is there any way to control the ability to left click? eg. Enabling and disabling use of left-clicking through a flag? This would help for an un-skipable intro/splashscreen if you could disable clicking at the start, and once it's over, re-enable left clicking.

[PyTom]

No. Ren'Py tries fairly hard to be responsive to user input, so there's no way to disable it globally.

[DANCUBE]

No. Ren'Py tries fairly hard to be responsive to user input, so there's no way to disable it globally.

Hm, I assumed doing that would be fairly simple, oh well.

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scene white with dissolve
scene interlude_background with dissolve:
    subpixel True
    align (0.5, 0.5)
    zoom 1.4
    ease 8 zoom 1
show beta with dissolve
pause 2
hide beta with dissolve
pause .5
show logo with dissolve
pause 3
show white with Dissolve(3)
pause 2

Would you recommend using hard pauses for making this unskipable? I'd rather have the player see this through without being able to advance until the end.

[nyaatrap]

How about using persistent variable?

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if persistent.variable == None:
  show image
  $pause(.5, hard=true)
  $persistent.variable = True
else:
  show image
  $ pause(.5)

Then player can skip at the 2nd play.

[papillon]

It's rare that users will just randomly click through a transition, and if they do - well, that's what rollback is for.

I thought this, until I had multiple testers who missed several chapter title screens entirely without even realising that they'd missed them (rolling back is no use if you don't know you missed something to roll back for) I've ended up having to sprinkle a bunch of split-second hard pauses to ensure that people will at least see a tiny flicker of the image when clicking too fast (or skipping) so that they'll know that it was there, without it actually slowing them down if they are trying to skip.

[DANCUBE]

I'm pretty sure I'm having trouble understanding how hard pauses work in this situation.
If I declare a hard pause, I'm aware that the player cannot click through it, however the game will NOT proceed to display the next transition until the hard pause has ended.
I understand the nature of a hard pause, but I can't see it helping in my situation.

Can anybody (even briefly) shine some light on this for me? If you could refer to my code that would help a ton.

[papillon]

If I declare a hard pause, I'm aware that the player cannot click through it, however the game will NOT proceed to display the next transition until the hard pause has ended.

Isn't that what you wanted? Forcing the whole thing to display without interruption? If not, I think you need to explain more clearly what you're trying to achieve.

[DANCUBE]

If I declare a hard pause, I'm aware that the player cannot click through it, however the game will NOT proceed to display the next transition until the hard pause has ended.

Isn't that what you wanted? Forcing the whole thing to display without interruption? If not, I think you need to explain more clearly what you're trying to achieve.

Yes, but a hard pause prevents the next transition from occurring, which is not what I want, I want a multiple transitions to play without the user being able to skip it, is this even possible?

[papillon]

I don't understand. It doesn't stop the next transition from occurring, it just means that the next one can't happen until that hard pause ends.

Your code already has separate timed pauses for each transition, doesn't it?

[MilywayObree]

I've seen a game called DDLC and it uses hard pauses globally without defining it all over again, i'm looking forward for some help on how to do it.

[MilywayObree]

I've seen a game called DDLC and it uses hard pauses globally without defining it all over again, i'm looking forward for some help on how to do it.

[Ocelot]

There is a _dismiss_pause store variable. Never used it, so I cannot say, how well it works.

Also about DDLC:
Find: pause
>>> Search Complete: 242 matching lines where found. Files Searched: 83

That's a lot of pauses.