[DISCUSSION]What art style speaks to you the most?

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[DISCUSSION]What art style speaks to you the most?

#1 Post by CrunchyShadow » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:32 am

Recently I've seen some new ideas about art styles. I was wondering what the LSF community thinks of non-drawing/non-anime art styles? Personally I like the anime style better but I appreciate 3D art too. What do you guys think?
Anime/Pencil or 3d?
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Re: [DISCUSSION]What art style speaks to you the most?

#2 Post by trooper6 » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:58 am

I tend to like any sort of art as long as it is done well and matches the story.
3D done well? Awesome!
Pop Art done well? Awesome!
Art Nouveau done well? Awesome!
Stick Figures done well? Awesome!

I do, however, how two exceptions that I can think of at the moment.
Big Boobed Cutesy Anime style.
And Rob Liefield style roided out super hero style.

I didn't really used to have a problem with the cutesy anime style...until I started playing lots of visual novels. It is so ubiquitous...and a lot of it isn't done very well...not bad...but not inspiring....I just don't like it. I see a game with that style and I'm turned off and unlikely to pick it up. This doesn't mean I dislike Japanese art in general. If there were a game that looked like the art of Ryoichi Ikegami I would snap that up really quickly! More classic Japanese art, like work by Sesshu, I'd also snap that up really quickly. I'm just not excited by the standard I see in a lot of VNs. I remember playing 999 and just being continuously irritated by the character art...especially with how disjunct it was with the background art. Basically, things people often call moe tend to really irritate me.

As for that Rob Liefield style, I just think it is really sexist and has no sense of anatomy.
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Re: [DISCUSSION]What art style speaks to you the most?

#3 Post by noeinan » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:11 am

I have a hard time with most 3D art-- it can work if it's more cartoony (so you skip out on the Uncanny Valley issue). It can be more Western cartoony of more anime, either can work, but 3D + realism isn't there yet in my opinion. (Dokapon Kingdom is an example of 3D I like: https://www.google.com/search?q=legend+ ... B640%3B480 )

Between Western cartoons and anime, I usually like anime. However, generic anime styles usually turn me off-- if all the characters have the same face and body shape with different hair for example. (Only Six Faces and Mukokuseki are the bane of my existence.) Or if all the female characters have HUGE eyes and all the male characters don't. I prefer anime styles that allow for more diversity of shape and size, different shapes of eyes instead of always the same one, etc.
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Re: [DISCUSSION]What art style speaks to you the most?

#4 Post by CrunchyShadow » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:20 am

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Re: [DISCUSSION]What art style speaks to you the most?

#5 Post by SundownKid » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:55 am

I just don't really like static 3D art, it usually falls into uncanny valley territory. Moving 3D art can be good though. Usually I prefer drawings if in 2D.

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Re: [DISCUSSION]What art style speaks to you the most?

#6 Post by Hijiri » Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:26 am

SundownKid wrote:I just don't really like static 3D art, it usually falls into uncanny valley territory. Moving 3D art can be good though. Usually I prefer drawings if in 2D.
I second this. The thing 3D art has over 2D is that it can move, which can make even the must ugly 3D models look good enough. (Ever saw ReBoot?)
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Re: [DISCUSSION]What art style speaks to you the most?

#7 Post by CrunchyShadow » Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:27 am

Hijiri wrote:
SundownKid wrote:I just don't really like static 3D art, it usually falls into uncanny valley territory. Moving 3D art can be good though. Usually I prefer drawings if in 2D.
I second this. The thing 3D art has over 2D is that it can move, which can make even the must ugly 3D models look good enough. (Ever saw ReBoot?)
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Re: [DISCUSSION]What art style speaks to you the most?

#8 Post by Donmai » Sat Feb 21, 2015 11:38 am

Usually I tend to skip discussions that return to the tired "3D art = Uncanny Valley" theme, but...
SundownKid wrote:I just don't really like static 3D art, it usually falls into uncanny valley territory. Moving 3D art can be good though. Usually I prefer drawings if in 2D.
Sounds like complete non-sense to me. People here talk about Uncanny Valley like it is a "feature" of 3D art only. No, badly made hand drawings can also have this effect. I believe that's how Trooper feel about most moé dolls he has seen. Only badly done 3D art can fall on that territory.
trooper6 wrote:I tend to like any sort of art as long as it is done well and matches the story.
3D done well? Awesome!
Pop Art done well? Awesome!
Art Nouveau done well? Awesome!
Stick Figures done well? Awesome!
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SundownKid wrote:I just don't really like static 3D art, it usually falls into uncanny valley territory. Moving 3D art can be good though. Usually I prefer drawings if in 2D.
I second this. The thing 3D art has over 2D is that it can move, which can make even the must ugly 3D models look good enough. (Ever saw ReBoot?)
IMO what makes 3D art look good is lots of technique and hard work, like on any form of art expression. The artist needs to know what to do with camera angles, light and shadow, surface shaders and atmospheric effects, and usually a 3D artist needs to have nearly the same skills of a photographer or an illustrator.
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SundownKid wrote:I just don't really like static 3D art, it usually falls into uncanny valley territory. Moving 3D art can be good though. Usually I prefer drawings if in 2D.
I second this. The thing 3D art has over 2D is that it can move, which can make even the must ugly 3D models look good enough. (Ever saw ReBoot?)
I third this lmao
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#9 Post by trooper6 » Sat Feb 21, 2015 11:42 am

And very excellent 3D art it is!
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#10 Post by Rinima » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:06 pm

I have a rather strong pull towards semi-realism art.
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#11 Post by n0tgin » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:13 pm

To me, it doesn't matter much what the art style is, as long as it's done well. This pretty much applies to everything, but I know this is not the case for everyone.
Though... I do have art styles I don't like.
Mainly moe styles. Especially if those moe characters have large breasts. Like, if your character's breasts are bigger than their head, it's time to sit down and consider your priorities.

Ones I like are more josei/seinen-ish art styles, mainly because it's less sparkles and... I think it just looks softer? I like styles which are either sharp and vibrant or can convey softness.

Also, regarding 3D art, although many think it can head towards the 'uncanny valley', we shouldn't really be discouraging people who want to try it out, maybe it'll work out for them, maybe it won't.
trooper6 wrote:As for that Rob Liefield style, I just think it is really sexist and has no sense of anatomy.
Yeah, I just... that style kinda baffles me. That's not how the human waist works!

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#12 Post by trooper6 » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:16 pm

n0tgin wrote: Mainly moe styles. Especially if those moe characters have large breasts. Like, if your character's breasts are bigger than their head, it's time to sit down and consider your priorities.

Ones I like are more josei/seinen-ish art styles, mainly because it's less sparkles and... I think it just looks softer? I like styles which are either sharp and vibrant or can convey softness.
trooper6 wrote:As for that Rob Liefield style, I just think it is really sexist and has no sense of anatomy.
Yeah, I just... that style kinda baffles me. That's not how the human waist works!
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#13 Post by otome games » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:22 pm

as awsome as 3D art is i prefer anime,because anime art makes any character look good

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#14 Post by potouto » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:48 pm

otome games wrote:as awsome as 3D art is i prefer anime,because anime art makes any character look good
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